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Invictus  
#1 Posted : 02 May 2012 11:15:10(UTC)
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Invictus

How often do you need to complete refresher training? or would you base it on those who are not working at height would require training more often than others. Please don't go on about the regulations as I cannot see were it states a difinitive time scale and I know that I need the correct access equipment and I know about the risk assessment and what it says.
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 02 May 2012 11:28:46(UTC)
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RayRapp

I doubt anyone can provide a definitive answer to your question. How often refresher training should be given for W@H will depend on a number of factors ie how often the work is undertaken, the risk, experience of those involved, level of supervision, etc. As a rule, refresher training is more necessary for those who do not normally undertake W@H. So, for those doing it regularly you could argue annually or bi-annually and more frequently (6 monthly or annually) for those who do it infrequently.
KAJ Safe  
#3 Posted : 02 May 2012 11:32:00(UTC)
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KAJ Safe

I think it would depend on the type and frequency of WAH. Most other types of training tend to work on a 3 year refresher training, we have a "rescue from height kit" which was provided as part of a training package (WAH included) from a course provider. Although the course provider agreed on 3 years, we ensure that the rescue kit is used annually in order to maintain familiarisation (touch wood for training purposes).
SafetyGirl  
#4 Posted : 02 May 2012 11:38:09(UTC)
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SafetyGirl

We've worked to a system where every 3 years everyone gets refreshed, during that time, employees are subject to annual / twice yearly competency checks and participate in daily toolbox talks.
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 02 May 2012 12:25:18(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

As you surmise, there is no one answer to that. Where people have been trained by competent trainers and you have adequate processes of supervision, monitoring and good embedded safety behaviours, then why would you necessarily contemplate refresher training at all? There's nothing more tedious than being dragged off the job for a regurgitation of the same "training" over and over again. Training is expensive and must add value to the undertaking. Tedious refresher training can get H&S a bad name. Rather focus your efforts on ensuring that the initial training sticks and invest in additional training when new kit or techniques are introduced. For those who do not routinely work at height, formal training needn't be the answer either. The infrequent visitor to site can often be placed under the direct supervision of others - much depends on the task, nature of hazards involved and the environment.
Seabee81  
#6 Posted : 02 May 2012 12:35:57(UTC)
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Seabee81

ron hunter wrote:
As you surmise, there is no one answer to that. Where people have been trained by competent trainers and you have adequate processes of supervision, monitoring and good embedded safety behaviours, then why would you necessarily contemplate refresher training at all? There's nothing more tedious than being dragged off the job for a regurgitation of the same "training" over and over again. Training is expensive and must add value to the undertaking. Tedious refresher training can get H&S a bad name. Rather focus your efforts on ensuring that the initial training sticks and invest in additional training when new kit or techniques are introduced. For those who do not routinely work at height, formal training needn't be the answer either. The infrequent visitor to site can often be placed under the direct supervision of others - much depends on the task, nature of hazards involved and the environment.
I agree with everything Ron has said, unless its a recognised WAH course that certain people have to have, such as the Renewable UK wind turbine climbing courses. In which case the renewal date will be specified on the certificate awarded. Work at height rescus drills are good. I like to put an old harness on a dummy, throw it over the handrail and get the guys to rescue it using a rescue kit. The guys enjoy it, it's valuable training as every second matters if you are suspended in a safety harness and the photographs look ace on my monthly report that I send to the office. Much better than the death by powerpoint that constitutes most WAH training
Invictus  
#7 Posted : 02 May 2012 13:26:51(UTC)
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Invictus

Thanks for the responses. I thought as much but didn't want to offer the advice if I had missed something in the regs. We always train when using new equipment i.e. PAL for cherry picker, PASMA, etc. We were looking in line with the various courses i.e. PAL being five years.
ctd167  
#8 Posted : 02 May 2012 13:27:07(UTC)
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ctd167

Dont think theres a difinative answer, but our training provider says 3 years.
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