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MEden380  
#1 Posted : 02 May 2012 08:34:49(UTC)
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MEden380

With the Treasury announcing an 84% reduction in Health and Safety Legislation at the last budget (some hope). I was wondering about the current burden of Environmental Legislation on industries within the UK. Having recently starting an environmental course I am some what surprised at the amount of legislation that purports to protecting our environment. How long before this is attacked as a "burden on businesses"? Oh sorry not political correct to attack any issues concerning the environment. P.S. Please don't print this off to help preserve "the environment"
NEE' ONIONS MATE!  
#2 Posted : 02 May 2012 09:56:59(UTC)
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NEE' ONIONS MATE!

you mean the 258 page guidance document for complying with CRC for example!!!
ahoskins  
#3 Posted : 02 May 2012 10:23:38(UTC)
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ahoskins

Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 02 May 2012 12:41:25(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Good to see a similar review there. Why isn't environmental legislation given the same rough ride in political circles as H&S? Because it doesn't feature in the Daily Wail and isn't therefore seen as an cheap and easy way of winning over the man on the street!
A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 02 May 2012 14:45:57(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

You can also add the madness that is CRB checks and Equality Impact Assessments. All of these are regarded as vital and beyond reproach unlike H&S which is seen, by certain members of the press, as little more that a silly add-on to real business
Phil Grace  
#6 Posted : 02 May 2012 15:12:17(UTC)
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Phil Grace

I notice that the WorkplaceLaw link makes mention of the Environment Agency adopting more of a "light touch" approach to enforcement...! Like what they have been doing with Civil Sanctions ..??? Euros 3.3million http://www.freshfields.c...2/apr12/32963.pdf#page=4 And there have been c30 or so much more mundane "recoveries" of a few tens of thousands of £s. Phil
jay  
#7 Posted : 03 May 2012 09:06:10(UTC)
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jay

Refer to the DEFRA website, "Red Tape Challenge – Environment Theme proposals!" http://www.defra.gov.uk/...28-red-tape-environment/ ".............Of 255 regulations, 132 will be improved, mainly through simplification or consolidation; 70 will be kept as they are, to uphold important environmental protections; and 53 obsolete regulations will be removed. There will also be a new drive to introduce smarter implementation on the ground"
KieranD  
#8 Posted : 03 May 2012 09:42:14(UTC)
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KieranD

Neither 'red tape' nor 'health and safety' are the exclusive butts of sick humour on the part of the gutter press. Since they got a foothold in the market, they've fostered psychological sickness with inane pseudo-humour, as illustrated by yesterday's headlines in The Sun about Roy Hodgson's lisp, which actually appears to very seldom hinder effective communication by him. Expansion in employment law, of which health and safety laws and regs are a relatively small part, is what generations of employee and worker representatives, in Parliament and beyond, have campaigned for since the nineteenth century. Mocking it can be recognised as just one kind of political and social effort to reduce personal rights.
JohnW  
#9 Posted : 03 May 2012 10:18:30(UTC)
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JohnW

MEden380, you need to step back a little, read, and quote something official. Where does it say "84% reduction ...." ?? The document in front of me says "scrap or improve" 84%..... that's a bit different.
johnmurray  
#10 Posted : 03 May 2012 20:45:24(UTC)
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johnmurray

And if they are enacted from EU legislation, they are unalterable without negotiation. So they will have to check thro' EU law to identify the parts that are untouchable. Environment. What we really need is some sorting-out of the agency charged with the environment, or preferably closing it. Contractors paid by time and not contract. Excessive staff, doing little because the agency hires outside... Close the EA and then worry about H&S.
MEden380  
#11 Posted : 04 May 2012 13:47:01(UTC)
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MEden380

JohnW If want the quote from the Treasury to SHP it was "167 out of 199 H&S Regulations considered as red tape challenge will be either withdrawn or improved. The tread was posted for general discussion and I have learnt that environment legislation is in for the chop as well. I find your thread more akin to another on the forum at the moment and that refers to been small minded. I am really fed up of persons making comments that are neither useful or constructive to a post - perhaps persons that make derogatory comments are not good at their job.
bob youel  
#12 Posted : 04 May 2012 16:41:13(UTC)
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bob youel

They will not be cutting the red tape that allows such types to claim additional expenses nor to get high fees for sitting on various boards!
JohnW  
#13 Posted : 04 May 2012 19:28:17(UTC)
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JohnW

MEden380 wrote:
JohnW If want the quote from the Treasury to SHP it was "167 out of 199 H&S Regulations considered as red tape challenge will be either withdrawn or improved. The tread was posted for general discussion and I have learnt that environment legislation is in for the chop as well. I find your thread more akin to another on the forum at the moment and that refers to been small minded. I am really fed up of persons making comments that are neither useful or constructive to a post - perhaps persons that make derogatory comments are not good at their job.
Thanks for the actual quote, MEden380. Why are you so negative with me? I'm just wanting the point cleared up. You said "84% reduction" which is not a correct interpretation of the quote, so YOUR posting was not useful. If many of the 167 remain, with just improvements and not withdrawn, then it won't be an 84% reduction. You see? Like I said earlier, just step back and read before you post.
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