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Joebaxil  
#1 Posted : 08 May 2012 15:57:34(UTC)
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Joebaxil

Quick ones gents , If we bring some stonemasons onto scaffold we as local authority have made available for them to do such and such work on say a bridge then who and how often would the scaffold be inspected and by who ? or put another way who would be competent to check the scaffold and what training would be required ? so the scaffolders have erected the scaffold on day 1 who then can check the scaffold daily and weekly ? hope i have covered the jist of it . thanks j
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 08 May 2012 16:38:12(UTC)
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RayRapp

Joe In short, only the said scaffolder is authorised to say that the scaffold is fit for purpose, it should be checked at least every seven days and documented. in the meantime any other person may say for whatever reason the scaffold is not fit for use - for example, if it is obviously damaged, but they are not competent to say that it is fit for use.
Seabee81  
#3 Posted : 08 May 2012 16:49:18(UTC)
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Seabee81

...as Ray has already said the scaffolder has to do a weekly inspection and sign off the scaff tag
boblewis  
#4 Posted : 08 May 2012 17:19:14(UTC)
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boblewis

The scaffold company/ erector does NOT do the weekly inspection UNLESS specifically contracted by the employer to do so. It is a commonly held fallacy that they are responsible for all inspections. You have erected the scaffold and are thus responsible for the weekly inspection by a competent person. Bob
Joebaxil  
#5 Posted : 08 May 2012 17:48:39(UTC)
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Joebaxil

thanks guys The question just came up this afternoon by a manager, and I thought that it should be managed between them and the scaffold contractor. For the mentioned reasons above I was the one who happened to mention , by experience of working on scaffolds very rarely if ever have I seen , or maybe just not noticed the scaffold being inspected weekly ? by the scaffold contractor. Very cynical of me I know . but now then the question would be After torrential rainfall and working over water re-pointing the waterside of a 9 meter span bridge , or near embankments then who is competent to do the daily check ? I would like to see maybe a selection of skilled and unskilled workers do a basic inspection course which would then pardon the pun bridge this gap . should I push for this ? thoughts please j
Jaywbee  
#6 Posted : 08 May 2012 21:39:11(UTC)
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We have scaffolds of various complexity. The simple and basic scaffolds are inspected in-house by appropriately trained (1 or 2 day scaffolding inspection courses available) personnel whilst we contract the approved scaffolders who erected the more complex scaffolding to conduct the inspections on a weekly basis. This keeps us legal and reduces costs over the longer term. Jerry
Joebaxil  
#7 Posted : 08 May 2012 22:44:14(UTC)
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Joebaxil

Jerry The scaffold I am concerned about are the basic tube scaffold of tubed single lift invariably. so my concerns are the weights which get loaded ie stone and this can add weight very easy on the platform which I have seen through my times on the tools , so this brings the up to 7 days into play even more in my view ? I do feel that if we had some basic trained persons this would cover us . but I am wondering what the management view would be ? at the end of the day if the 7 day inspection by the trained scaffold company does not happen we have zero cover in effect . but yes Jerry your procedure seems spot on to me . thanks again guys J
boblewis  
#8 Posted : 08 May 2012 23:05:23(UTC)
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boblewis

No scaffold over water is basic - the designs in SG20 do not cover this area of work. All such scaffolds must be individually designed and unless you have good experience of checking a scaffold against a design drawing then do not even try to do the 7 day. Whoever does this MUST enter it in the inspection register and sign it fit for use. Daily wise then yes a 2 day basic course and then use this to monitor for changes or degradation or interference could be useful. But they will need confidence in understanding what has been erected. Bob
Ron Hunter  
#9 Posted : 08 May 2012 23:13:34(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

There's also the potential for confusion of specification where one party specifies and commissions a scaffold to be used by another. you mention stonemason work, which usually demands the highest possible spec. for loading of platforms. Does the contractor have a basic appreciation of scaffold load categories, and have you as Client/ Principal adequately communicated the spec. and limits of the scaffold you have provided? Have you commissioned a contractor with sufficient experience in working from scaffold? As with most things, the simple answer is usually that the ownership of the risk rests with those who create it. You commission a scaffold, then that scaffold remains your responsibility for the duration.
JohnW  
#10 Posted : 09 May 2012 13:08:42(UTC)
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JohnW

Just to say I provide safety advice to small building sites and i ensure weekly scaffolding inspections by the scaffolder, and I ensure they happen by accompanying him most times. We complete an inspection document, his knowledge ensures THE STRUCTURE was (and remains) to the necessary standards while my main input is in inspecting the ground, the ties and the platforms ensuring the scaffold is being USED PROPERLY i.e. brick guards, toeboards, gaps, slip/trip hazards, no excessive loads, weather etc.
Joebaxil  
#11 Posted : 09 May 2012 16:21:51(UTC)
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Joebaxil

Thanks guys , You have helped a newbie advisor yet again , The questions need to be asked then at least now putting this over to management I could get some results Thanks again gents j
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