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szone  
#1 Posted : 15 May 2012 13:33:05(UTC)
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szone


I am under the impression that roller shutter doors (powered electronically) are subject to an annual LOLER inspection ?

Can anyone please confirm ?
Andrew W Walker  
#2 Posted : 15 May 2012 13:37:26(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

Hi szone.

I'd say not- as they are not used for lifting anything.

PUWER would be the way to go.

Hope this helps

Andy
szone  
#3 Posted : 15 May 2012 13:39:09(UTC)
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szone


Thank you for your reply.

From my point of view the motor system is used fore lifting the shutter door, which vehicles and people pass under , thoughts ?
Clairel  
#4 Posted : 15 May 2012 13:45:09(UTC)
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Clairel

No roller shutter doors are not included. The main purpose of them is not to lift and they are only lifting themsleves (if that makes sense).

PUWER still applies though.
Rob35  
#5 Posted : 15 May 2012 13:48:51(UTC)
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Rob35

Agree with the above. Annual Inspection under PUWER.
Andrew W Walker  
#6 Posted : 15 May 2012 13:50:25(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

As Clairel has said- they are not lifting equipment.

There is more guidance here:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l113.pdf

Andy
Clairel  
#7 Posted : 15 May 2012 13:52:49(UTC)
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Clairel

Knew it was in print somewhere. this is from the HSE website:


28 Machinery, whose primary function is not that of raising or lowering but which includes some integral part performing a lifting function, eg the boom of a mobile concreting pump or a tipper lorry which raises its body to discharge the load, should not be regarded as lifting equipment. This exclusion extends to chains, ropes and lifting tackle forming an integral part of the plant, for example counterbalanced furnace doors or dock gates. Machinery which lifts itself, eg roller shutter doors, is also not considered to be lifting equipment.

29 In cases where LOLER does not apply, it is likely that PUWER will require similar levels of precautions. In particular, where deterioration may result in risks which are significant, then inspections under PUWER reg.6 may be needed.
Safety Smurf  
#8 Posted : 15 May 2012 14:41:32(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

I don't think you'll find it's either. It's part of building and therefore subject to the workplace regs and the management regs.

A roller shutter door forming an entrance is not a piece of work equipment, nor is it part of an installation.

A production line would be a good example of an installation. Were a piece on a production line to go through a spray booth or oven for example. If this were enclosed by a powered door then this would come under PUWER.

A roller shutter door forming an entrance is not a piece of work equipment, nor is it part of an installation.

This does not mean to say that this risk does not need assessing nor the shutter maintaining.
Clairel  
#9 Posted : 15 May 2012 15:11:08(UTC)
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Clairel

I disagree SS.

The motor is not part of the building, even though the door itself is, it is therefore an item of equipment in work premises and therefore PUWER would apply IMO.
Safety Smurf  
#10 Posted : 15 May 2012 15:26:25(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

quote=Clairel]I disagree SS.

The motor is not part of the building, even though the door itself is, it is therefore an item of equipment in work premises and therefore PUWER would apply IMO.


I used to share that viewpoint until researching it a little further recently.

That said, I didn't lessen the inspection or maintenance regime as a result.
DP  
#11 Posted : 15 May 2012 17:26:44(UTC)
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DP

JJ Prendergast  
#12 Posted : 15 May 2012 17:33:01(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

Another pointless argument developing on this discussion forum trying to split hairs over minor details

Must admit it beats me how it was ever concluded that a roller shutter door might come under the remit of LOLER in the first place.
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