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9Yally  
#1 Posted : 21 May 2012 09:26:02(UTC)
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9Yally

I am not sure if putting my age on my CV will be beneficial to me or more of a hindrance. I am 28 and have 7 years experience as a H&S manager. Will employers prefer someone who is older or will my age benefit me ? Thought ?
Seabee81  
#2 Posted : 21 May 2012 09:53:00(UTC)
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Seabee81

I'm 30 and have 8 years HSE experience. I always put my date of birth on my CV now as I have walked into interviews in the past and the interviewer has clearly been surprised by my youthful good looks. Also many employers want younger people now as they tend to have more enthusiasm for the job. Places like the UAE don't even consider people on over the age of 50
chris42  
#3 Posted : 21 May 2012 10:06:16(UTC)
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chris42

To be honest I think employers can work it out, as most people list their job history from the time of finishing school or have dates they did degrees etc, so normally not difficult.
RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 21 May 2012 11:13:16(UTC)
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RayRapp

You think you have problems...I'm 54! I was advised by an agency not to put mage age/date of birth on my CV. However, as someone has already mentioned, a prospective employer can easily ascertain your age from your past history - so don't worry about it too much.
teh_boy  
#5 Posted : 21 May 2012 11:57:19(UTC)
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teh_boy

Seabee81 wrote:
younger people now as they tend to have more enthusiasm for the job.
That will be worn away by the time your 33 :) On a serious note - age - be it young or old has it's advantages. I agree the employer will work it out and even if the employer hadn't worked it out before interview they will after :) I always put my DOB on my CV - if I am going to be discriminated against I might as well find out sooner. dealing with all of the fun of the job at 21 - shows clear ability and a strong personality, use it as a selling point!
Seabee81  
#6 Posted : 21 May 2012 15:28:44(UTC)
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Seabee81

teh_boy wrote:
Seabee81 wrote:
younger people now as they tend to have more enthusiasm for the job.
That will be worn away by the time your 33 :) On a serious note - age - be it young or old has it's advantages. I agree the employer will work it out and even if the employer hadn't worked it out before interview they will after :) I always put my DOB on my CV - if I am going to be discriminated against I might as well find out sooner. dealing with all of the fun of the job at 21 - shows clear ability and a strong personality, use it as a selling point!
haha that's why I said TEND to be :) all of the enthusiasm I had earlier has evaporated after the day I've just had.
Stedman  
#7 Posted : 21 May 2012 15:47:10(UTC)
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Stedman

As agencies these days deliberately don’t identify this information and most large organisations go out of their way with policies to avoid ageism during recruitment, I simply thought that the professional thing was to simply leave it off. The last time I saw a date of birth on a professional CV must be over five years ago!
m  
#8 Posted : 21 May 2012 21:12:11(UTC)
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m

Stedman and RayRapp have summarised it correctly. As someone who is currently looking for a new job I have been told by more than one agency to remove my DoB. If they don't know you age then they can't be accused of ageism. That said, my expressed competence with a slide rule might give the game away!
NLivesey  
#9 Posted : 22 May 2012 13:42:19(UTC)
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NLivesey

It's well worth taking a look at a few of the 'free' CV advise sites out there once in a while as the etiquette for CV's does change over time. I've recently updated my CV as I'd got my DOB on the head of the page and looking around it seems to have fallen out of favour for professional CV's. I'd advise taking a look at the 'Business Balls' website for some good, solid advice on CV's and covering letters. It's no fuss and tells it like it is, well worth 5 minutes of anyones time.
NEE' ONIONS MATE!  
#10 Posted : 22 May 2012 14:26:18(UTC)
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NEE' ONIONS MATE!

9yally wrote:
I am not sure if putting my age on my CV will be beneficial to me or more of a hindrance. I am 28 and have 7 years experience as a H&S manager. Will employers prefer someone who is older or will my age benefit me ? Thought ?
I think you should proudly declare your age as in my experience it is the younger element that generally have the flexibility and ability to merge safety into business in a proportionate way. They're not too 'risk averse' and are, in many ways, able to cope with change in a more proactive way. I don't discount the experience element of the 30 year + employee, but if you're switched on, you can pick up a hell of a lot in three years. I dont beleive there's any exponential curve around experience. I think it peaks after about three to five years in the same job. That'll get a few hernias pulsing!!!
Stedman  
#11 Posted : 22 May 2012 15:28:04(UTC)
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Stedman

Originally Posted by: NEE' Go to Quoted Post
I think you should proudly declare your age as in my experience it is the younger element that generally have the flexibility and ability to merge safety into business in a proportionate way. They're not too 'risk averse' and are, in many ways, able to cope with change in a more proactive way. I don't discount the experience element of the 30 year + employee, but if you're switched on, you can pick up a hell of a lot in three years. I dont beleive there's any exponential curve around experience. I think it peaks after about three to five years in the same job. That'll get a few hernias pulsing!!!
Apart from being an overtly ageist statement you should also be aware of Code Point 17 of our Code of Conduct.
NEE' ONIONS MATE!  
#12 Posted : 22 May 2012 15:32:39(UTC)
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NEE' ONIONS MATE!

stedman wrote:
Originally Posted by: NEE' Go to Quoted Post
I think you should proudly declare your age as in my experience it is the younger element that generally have the flexibility and ability to merge safety into business in a proportionate way. They're not too 'risk averse' and are, in many ways, able to cope with change in a more proactive way. I don't discount the experience element of the 30 year + employee, but if you're switched on, you can pick up a hell of a lot in three years. I dont beleive there's any exponential curve around experience. I think it peaks after about three to five years in the same job. That'll get a few hernias pulsing!!!
Apart from being an overtly ageist statement you should also be aware of Code Point 17 of our Code of Conduct.
I'm too old for ageism matey
Stedman  
#13 Posted : 22 May 2012 16:06:59(UTC)
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Stedman

Originally Posted by: NEE' Go to Quoted Post
stedman wrote:
Originally Posted by: NEE' Go to Quoted Post
I think you should proudly declare your age as in my experience it is the younger element that generally have the flexibility and ability to merge safety into business in a proportionate way. They're not too 'risk averse' and are, in many ways, able to cope with change in a more proactive way. I don't discount the experience element of the 30 year + employee, but if you're switched on, you can pick up a hell of a lot in three years. I dont beleive there's any exponential curve around experience. I think it peaks after about three to five years in the same job. That'll get a few hernias pulsing!!!
Apart from being an overtly ageist statement you should also be aware of Code Point 17 of our Code of Conduct.
I'm too old for ageism matey
Sorry age is no excuse.
MarcusB  
#14 Posted : 23 May 2012 13:13:43(UTC)
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MarcusB

Along the same lines as stedman and others have said; leave the DOB off of your CV - if they want to know your age, they can work it out from you list of education/experience but there is no point putting it at the top of your CV and risking any form of (probably unintended) discrimination before someone has even scanned through your CV.
pete48  
#15 Posted : 23 May 2012 22:07:49(UTC)
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pete48

Age is entirely relative and jsut one aspect of a person/job profile. How about a 64 year old 100 metre runner in the 2012 Olympics final? Or a 21 year old high school graduate President of the USA? Possible but unlikely and perhaps not the best fit to get the best results in the tasks on offer? That said, what defines success is whether you match enough of the complete person and job spec to get an interview and then whether you can manage that interview successfully. Your approximate age will be apparent from the contents of your c.v. p48
SP900308  
#16 Posted : 24 May 2012 08:39:54(UTC)
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SP900308

Regardless of age, if the rest of the CV has no substance or doesn't reflect what the Employer is looking for, I wouldn't worry about it. Similarly, if your CV is hot and satisfies exactly what the Employer is after, I wouldn't worry about it. Good luck.
Rickwood22154  
#17 Posted : 24 May 2012 12:54:18(UTC)
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Rickwood22154

Its one of those dammed if you do and dammed if you don't scenarios, I can understand an employer wanting a younger person as they may stay with the company for longer, fresh ideas etc, however, an older person comes with experience and most likely completed / updated their training so no costly courses to pay for, I am now 63 and changed employers some 6 years ago as I was looking for reduced hours, this fits in quite well with some SME's as they are not looking for a full time H/S professional. Personally I would put my DOB and age on a CV so they have a clue as to what they are getting, I may be a little overweight, a bit saggy in places and have more lines that British Rail, (what you see is what you get), but I believe I can still deliver a good service.
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