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Nikki-Napo  
#1 Posted : 30 April 2012 13:09:12(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

I'm feeling a little down, as I've just heard that I've not been selected for a 2nd interview. Anyway, onwards and upwards.

As a result of this last position, I was wondering what other people's hit rates are for interviews. So far, I've been asked to attend 3 since the end of August last year.
Personally, I don't apply for all jobs going as I don't believe it's helpful, either to me, or the potential employers involved, as I'm sure they get inundated with C.Vs that for the most part, are unsuitable, so this just wastes everybody's time and effort.

Am I justified in feeling let down, or is my interview rate about right, bearing in mind the current economic climate, and my limited experience?

What have others experienced in terms of interviews? I'm trying to get a feel for what's normal or average.



SW  
#2 Posted : 30 April 2012 18:32:30(UTC)
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SW

Depends on the amount of jobs you have applied for - don't think you said Nikki-Napo.

If you have had 3 interviews from 3 applications - that's pretty good. If 3 out of 50 then not so good.

If you are not happy at work and on the look out maybe it would be a good idea to apply for more - who cares that the Employer may be inundated with unsuitable CV's - just tailor yours to the best it can be and go for it. Good interview practice if nothing else and maybe you could pick up hints for the next one.

It is very tough out there and I am really concerned as I want to move back closer to home within the next 18 months but fear with the Government chopping H&S Regs there may be little jobs available.

My interview hit rate is 1 out of 1 since Feb where I was shortlisted for a job I accidentally applied for! (I only clicked to look at the job but accidentally sent off my CV) Didn't get it though as I am rubbish at interviews unfortunately. Glad I went for it as I picked up some valuable tips for the next one.

Good Luck

SW
Nikki-Napo  
#3 Posted : 01 May 2012 09:53:50(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Thanks for your reply SW.

I'm not currently working.

I haven't kept track of all the jobs I've applied for, but it must be about 20-25 ish.

I agree with you about the interview experience.
chris42  
#4 Posted : 01 May 2012 10:30:32(UTC)
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chris42

It sort of depends, for instance if you apply for a job that sounds ideal for you via an agency. Then you get the actual spec for the job, you find key information had been removed from the advert (in order to hide who the organisation was so you don't bypass them). You then realise you do not have appropriate experience, does this still count as applying or when you just know an agency is just CV hunting, but can't prove it so you apply anyway. Do these count ?

If so I my rate would be about 25%, if not around 40%.

Don't get downhearted it does no good.
Lisa Boulton  
#5 Posted : 01 May 2012 13:23:48(UTC)
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Lisa Boulton

I am sorry to hear that you are feeling a bit low about your lack of success in the job stakes I am sure that if you keep plugging away then eventually you will be succesfull.

My own experience has been really good, I have applied for two jobs in the last 12 months, the first job I wasn't shortlisted which was expcted as the job was a bit 'out of my league' but was successfull with my second application and start my new job next week.

My advice would be firstly make sure you are applying for the right type of job, only apply for the jobs you genuinely think you are capable/competent of doing and thus stand a chance of getting.

Secondly prepare as much as you can for the interview. I hadn't been for an interview in 8 years so felt quite intimidated by the prospect. I found a number of articles on the SHP Online site related to interviews in the H&S field so read these and also looked at previous postings on this forum about interviews all of which contained valuable advice.

At the interview be your self and genuine about what you can and can't do, if you haven't done something that is in the JD but done something simliar reference that as a positive.

One of the articles I read was by a recruitment consultant and he made a number of interesting comments including be nice to everyone at the company you interact with, the panel may ask the receptionist whether the candidates were rude or nice to them! and they also made the point that if asked to do say a powerpoint presentation be prepared for the equipment to fail, those candidates who can still do the presentation without the technology are the stand out candidates, needless to say I had a printed copy of my presentation for my interview, and the powerpoint had failed on the candidate before me!

I don't know if my experience is the norm or if I have just been lucky, I am often told that I come across as confident in interviews (in a good way) (even if I don't feel it) so try and be confident, but not too cocky!

Good luck and hope you feel more motivated with your next application.

Nikki-Napo  
#6 Posted : 01 May 2012 15:08:43(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Thanks for the replies, and guidance.

I only ever apply for jobs that I feel I'm capable of, and have a real chance of getting. To do otherwise is counter productive. I also don't apply for jobs in areas that I'm really not interested in working in, as I've noticed that people seem to get pigeonholed, and some people are having a difficult time in moving into other areas.

The feedback I've had so far is that I interview well, and come across as confident. I'm quite a confident person anyway, so I think that helps.

I shall keep at it. :-)
RJK1976  
#7 Posted : 03 May 2012 13:17:58(UTC)
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RJK1976

Nikki-Napo have you tried to pick up some h&s temporary work through a job agency?

I was out of work for a short while and took a temporary h&s advisor job through an agency. The employer liked me so took me on permanently after a few months.

You might just need a foot in the door to get the job you want.

If you need any names of agents I know of then please PM me.
Nikki-Napo  
#8 Posted : 03 May 2012 14:26:04(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

RJK1976 wrote:
Nikki-Napo have you tried to pick up some h&s temporary work through a job agency?

I was out of work for a short while and took a temporary h&s advisor job through an agency. The employer liked me so took me on permanently after a few months.

You might just need a foot in the door to get the job you want.

If you need any names of agents I know of then please PM me.


I'm registered with so many agencies, and that's for all types of work, contract, temporary, permanent. Since qualifying I've yet to see a temporary HS&E job in the Derbyshire area.
I'm trying to increase my contacts on Linkedin too.
Stedman  
#9 Posted : 08 May 2012 11:42:22(UTC)
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Stedman

Nikki,

If you were to take a pragmatic view of what you have achieved so far, your hit rate in terms of interviews has been very good so you must be doing something right!

Having been on both sides of the fence matching candidates for our field of work is very challenging and in the past when I have been given the task of appointing candidates I have found it very challenging in terms of time. Out of 50 – 60 CVs we would probably only see 3 – 5 candidates and then it would only be the best candidate who was given a second interview.

When I interview candidates it is the ones who are able to give me the how answers who come to the fore i.e. it is one thing candidates telling me what they can do, but it is another thing actually telling me how!

As you state you have limited experience, at an interview I would be looking answers which showed aptitude, planning and strategic thinking and the type of question that I may ask would be:

- If you are not working at the moment, how have you gone about trying to gain experience?

- Have you put together a career plan and what steps have you taken in developing this?

- When you did your study, which aspect did you find most challenging?

I hope this answer is of more help.
Nikki-Napo  
#10 Posted : 16 May 2012 09:33:14(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Thanks Stedman.
BJC  
#11 Posted : 16 May 2012 11:46:20(UTC)
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The trouble is HS is being put on the back burner and there are far fewer jobs about try here hsejobs.proboards.com and SHP online.
TSC  
#12 Posted : 16 May 2012 13:49:00(UTC)
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TSC

I have been lucky, as I currently work out of the UK and updated my CV placing on websites and with agents stating I was looking for work back home (UK). I recently was back in the UK and recieved 7 invites for interview, attended 3 and was offered 2, accepting 1.

There is positions earlier this year that I put my name forward for but then heard nothing ranging in salaries, ones I know I was more than qualified for.

The thing I changed was my CV, which I updated the complete template to be clear and easy to see my key points/skills. I looked at the jobs I was interested in and ensured this matched them, highlighting my experience and skills. It seemed to work and I recieved comments on my CV looking good in appearance.

Maybe I just got lucky and got the timing right!

Best of luck in your search
Nikki-Napo  
#13 Posted : 16 May 2012 14:01:07(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Thanks BJC and TC.
Nikki-Napo  
#14 Posted : 16 May 2012 14:02:15(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

I meant TSC
Steve W1  
#15 Posted : 29 May 2012 17:25:36(UTC)
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Steve W1

Hi
I have had 4 interviews in the last four months. I got down to the last two applicants at the last one.
I am finding that preparation for the interview is paramount along with customising your CV for each job application.
I'm getting a bit concerned about myself because I'm starting to enjoy the whole application process. (I think I need help)
Its very challenging and I do believe there is an art to it. A lot of preparation and research is needed along with good competency test answers (good tips on the Internet on how to prepare for these)
My advise is to keep at it, and improve your interview technique.
Got to log off now, I've got another interview to prepare for, you never know.
Best of luck
Steve W
Chrissie  
#16 Posted : 29 May 2012 17:39:28(UTC)
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Chrissie

Mine is 5 and counting...... I actually think i'm getting worse at them, because i'm just so used to rejection. I have stopped looking for now, and I am heading back to college to do something else, i feel health and safety is just dying out, unless you have 10 years experience.

I have even volunteered to do some work and still no EHS department in Ireland is interested, it's ridiculous how unhelpful people can be. And i have looked for advice - and still i might as well be talking to the wall, i would get more responses.

How can you climb the ladder when no one is willing to give you a chance? I know i give out alot about health and safety jobs (or lack of), but I never thought that these professional would be so ignorant when it comes to giving advice.

It's really comforting to know that those who are in a position to help, aren't bothered.



Pete Lithgo  
#17 Posted : 29 May 2012 20:37:17(UTC)
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Pete Lithgo

Hi Nikki-Napo I am in similar situation except I am out of work, but having little luck getting interviewed I am told a lot of firms just advertise however not all are genuine jobs, just looking to see what is available etc.

I get plenty of calls from agencies but nothing seems to happen regarding interviews and work.

been out of work since mid Jan, only had 1 interview.

Safety Man 1  
#18 Posted : 30 May 2012 22:00:28(UTC)
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Safety Man 1

Well I was going to ask for interview advice but there does not seem to be many happy results with the posts on here. Well here goes can anyone give me advice I have two interviews in two days next week its like waiting on a bus none for ages then 2 come at once. Unfortunately I have had two interviews recently one went fine but went internally ,second one was ok can anyone point me in the right direction as I feel I am qualified for these roles plus I am working towards my diploma and chartered membership. Help please
Nikki-Napo  
#19 Posted : 31 May 2012 11:00:13(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

chrissie wrote:
Mine is 5 and counting...... I actually think i'm getting worse at them, because i'm just so used to rejection. I have stopped looking for now, and I am heading back to college to do something else, i feel health and safety is just dying out, unless you have 10 years experience.

I have even volunteered to do some work and still no EHS department in Ireland is interested, it's ridiculous how unhelpful people can be. And i have looked for advice - and still i might as well be talking to the wall, i would get more responses.

How can you climb the ladder when no one is willing to give you a chance? I know i give out alot about health and safety jobs (or lack of), but I never thought that these professional would be so ignorant when it comes to giving advice.

It's really comforting to know that those who are in a position to help, aren't bothered.





I understand your frustration Chrissie, as I'm also experiencing what you are. People offering to help, and then nothing comes of it/emails don't get answered/calls aren't made/messages are ignored. It says more about them than you, so try not to get too downhearted. I know it's not easy, and we'll just have to keep on plugging away.

In the meantime, try and do others things that you enjoy and don't get too strung out by people whose intentions aren't very clear.
Nikki-Napo  
#20 Posted : 31 May 2012 11:03:08(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Pete Lithgo wrote:
Hi Nikki-Napo I am in similar situation except I am out of work, but having little luck getting interviewed I am told a lot of firms just advertise however not all are genuine jobs, just looking to see what is available etc.

I get plenty of calls from agencies but nothing seems to happen regarding interviews and work.

been out of work since mid Jan, only had 1 interview.



I'm in the same boat as you Pete, with regard to work. I'm still looking for my first step, but I'll keep on trying. It's all I can do.

Good luck with your job hunt.
Nikki-Napo  
#21 Posted : 31 May 2012 11:06:26(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Derek B wrote:
Well I was going to ask for interview advice but there does not seem to be many happy results with the posts on here. Well here goes can anyone give me advice I have two interviews in two days next week its like waiting on a bus none for ages then 2 come at once. Unfortunately I have had two interviews recently one went fine but went internally ,second one was ok can anyone point me in the right direction as I feel I am qualified for these roles plus I am working towards my diploma and chartered membership. Help please


I think you've got a pretty good hit rate there Derek. I wouldn't knock what you're doing, as clearly you're doing something right. Just be positive, do your homework, and don't forget an interview is a two way process, so interview your potential employer too.
Let us know how you get on. Be confident, wear your best smile, be polite to EVERYONE you meet at your potential employer's premises. I think it won't be long before you'll be gainfully employed.

Good luck with your interviews next week.
Paul B  
#22 Posted : 31 May 2012 11:43:22(UTC)
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Paul B

Since being made redundant from a QHSE post in October 2010 I have had two short term contracts,one for 7 months and the other for 3 months. I have had about 7 interviews which I thought went well but with a negative outcome.

When I followed up for feed back from the interviewers the usual reply is "You was a very strong candidate but others were stronger"

I now find my self reluctantly having to go back on the tools which given the present economic climate is a task in itself.
Never the less I will continue to apply for Health and Safety roles.

My advice to you is keep at it and eventually a break will come and good luck.
teh_boy  
#23 Posted : 31 May 2012 13:21:59(UTC)
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teh_boy

I was told (back in the good old days of non recession) by a careers advisor from the Royal Society of Chemistry (used as IOSH didn't / don't help much with career advice)

that I should apply for 10 jobs to get 1 interview
and attend 10 interviews to get one job

So that's 100 applications for one job according to her - oddly that gave me the motivation to just crack on with applications.

I also used to get annoyed when I had to do a bespoke application for each job - that's when you start to feel the burden and job hunting becomes a full time job.

Note: My first job (in safety) came from these forums, but only after I narrowed my search field and became very specific.

I will PM you contact details if you want to chat about interview technique etc.


Scotland1  
#24 Posted : 06 June 2012 12:13:44(UTC)
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I must admit I was lucky, I have left the Military after 22 yrs and applied for my first job as HSE co-ordinator, got interview and got job.
I have been working Logistics for 22yrs with little experience but gained the Nebosh General Cert and Also Nebosh Environmental Management certificates

I work in Aberdeen where there is an abundance of jobs so I suppose a lot goes down to location, only 5 others went for this job and most asked for better money than I did (Im on 35k) they were asking in the 40's.
phargreaves04  
#25 Posted : 06 June 2012 12:50:25(UTC)
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phargreaves04

I am the same as oneupu2, left military after 22 years also in Logistics, applied and got the job. Mind you that was four years ago, so no doubt things are slightly different and employers can afford to be a bit more selective.
BJC  
#26 Posted : 06 June 2012 15:42:54(UTC)
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Dont give up and try SHP and http://hsejobs.proboards.com
Melrose80086  
#27 Posted : 11 June 2012 15:33:35(UTC)
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Melrose80086

Make sure you have a really good CV as that's normally what gets the foot in the door. Even if it means paying for someone to help you, it should increase the interview rate if you are applying for a job you are qualified for.

Next, do research into the company if you do get an interview letter or call. Any issues, mergers, how the company has been performing on the stock market (if applicable). Shows you haven't just walked off the street but are genuinely interested in the company and what they do (new products, any new research etc).

Have at least 5 prepared questions to ask them. There are websites out there that can help with those - just tailor them to the job being applied for. If possible have a couple of follow up questions ready i.e. if they say this then ask them a follow up question about that..

Dont be afraid to ask why the position is vacant (person retired or moved onto something else) or if there are any immediate issues that you would be expected to tackle if you were successful (or long term issues that never seem to be resolved).

If you have other attributes (team player, undergraduate in another topic) try and use that also, do you have any other qualifications that perhaps others might not have...fire safety for example that you could mention that could make you stand out from the rest of the applications?

Use all interviews as practice and if you do get rejected ask for feedback.

Finally, try and be yourself as you might be able to fool an interview panel for a couple of hours by pretending to be someone you are not but you won't be able to do it full time in the position (if you get it) and remember, you are interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you!
Nikki-Napo  
#28 Posted : 11 June 2012 16:21:10(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

teh_boy wrote:
I was told (back in the good old days of non recession) by a careers advisor from the Royal Society of Chemistry (used as IOSH didn't / don't help much with career advice)

that I should apply for 10 jobs to get 1 interview
and attend 10 interviews to get one job

So that's 100 applications for one job according to her - oddly that gave me the motivation to just crack on with applications.

I also used to get annoyed when I had to do a bespoke application for each job - that's when you start to feel the burden and job hunting becomes a full time job.

Note: My first job (in safety) came from these forums, but only after I narrowed my search field and became very specific.

I will PM you contact details if you want to chat about interview technique etc.





Thanks for your contact details. I appreciate it.
Nikki-Napo  
#29 Posted : 11 June 2012 16:22:19(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

BJC wrote:
Dont give up and try SHP and http://hsejobs.proboards.com


Thanks. I wish this website had a multiquote option.
Nikki-Napo  
#30 Posted : 11 June 2012 16:31:03(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Melrose80086 wrote:
Make sure you have a really good CV as that's normally what gets the foot in the door. Even if it means paying for someone to help you, it should increase the interview rate if you are applying for a job you are qualified for.

Next, do research into the company if you do get an interview letter or call. Any issues, mergers, how the company has been performing on the stock market (if applicable). Shows you haven't just walked off the street but are genuinely interested in the company and what they do (new products, any new research etc).

Have at least 5 prepared questions to ask them. There are websites out there that can help with those - just tailor them to the job being applied for. If possible have a couple of follow up questions ready i.e. if they say this then ask them a follow up question about that..

Dont be afraid to ask why the position is vacant (person retired or moved onto something else) or if there are any immediate issues that you would be expected to tackle if you were successful (or long term issues that never seem to be resolved).

If you have other attributes (team player, undergraduate in another topic) try and use that also, do you have any other qualifications that perhaps others might not have...fire safety for example that you could mention that could make you stand out from the rest of the applications?

Use all interviews as practice and if you do get rejected ask for feedback.

Finally, try and be yourself as you might be able to fool an interview panel for a couple of hours by pretending to be someone you are not but you won't be able to do it full time in the position (if you get it) and remember, you are interviewing them as much as they are interviewing you!


Thanks for your in depth response. I must be doing something right, as I try to do what you've suggested.

I did like your comment about long term issues though, as I think that could be quite useful, especially when weighing up whether the job is the right one for you, and whether or not you have what it takes to try and resolve those long term issues.
A challenge is one thing, but changing the entire culture of a company, as an example, without management buy in, could be a monumental task.
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