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TTTWTW		#1 Posted : 29 May 2012 22:21:42(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		Is anyone aware of a pending change to legislation whereby Unions will no longer receive payment for recommending their members to submit a claim against their employer? Specifically relating to an accident at work. Any comments/opinions appreciated.
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Ron Hunter		#2 Posted : 29 May 2012 23:09:34(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Payment from whom?
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saferay		#3 Posted : 30 May 2012 11:24:20(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		I was a Union H&S Rep for 21 years and I have never heard of this. If it is the case, is doesn't sound ethical to me. Is this payment something that was introduced post 2003?
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Canopener		#4 Posted : 30 May 2012 11:50:53(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I believe that you may be referring to the governments plans to ban referral fees by insurance companies, who sell on personal details of those involved in accidents to personal injury 'lawyers' and the like. This is part of their commitment to combat the 'compensation culture'. Ethical or not (that's another debate) it happens, and it may well be that unions also receive a referral fees in a similar way.
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walker		#5 Posted : 30 May 2012 12:16:05(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Sounds like one of those things that happen on "planet daily mail" but back here on earth I've never come across this.
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sean		#6 Posted : 30 May 2012 12:27:03(UTC)
Rank: Guest		I am a Union Official and can say I have never heard of this, however there is one large group of solicitors that are recommended by my union, these solicitors have always supported the working class. Maybe a payment similar to a retainer is paid annually to the union?

Canopener		#7 Posted : 30 May 2012 12:29:58(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		A simple Google will reveal that referral fees such as those that I have described are very much part of the industry, and are not confined to the imaginations of the Daily Mail reporters. I have always found the 'logic' if there is any, somewhat perverse!
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Andrew W Walker		#8 Posted : 30 May 2012 12:43:07(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		At my last place we had union blokes actively encouraging people to claim for the most minor of things- now I know why. Andy
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Mr.Flibble		#9 Posted : 30 May 2012 13:16:14(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Oh this does happen, with some Union Members getting payment from the Union Solicitors for referring someone who has had an accident, some even take copies from the accident book and pass them on...
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sean		#10 Posted : 30 May 2012 13:24:56(UTC)
Rank: Guest		I am not saying it doesn't go on but I can put my hand on my heart and say that I have never been offered or taken any money from a solicitors for providing my investigation into the circumstances. I do not know any union officials that do so either

DP		#11 Posted : 30 May 2012 13:38:28(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Some do get referral fees - they wont openly inform of this but if you work for a large Unionised company based across many locations in the UK and all the claims received come from the same local Solicitors - there's a clue!!!! Make you own mind up? DP
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Canopener		#12 Posted : 30 May 2012 17:06:05(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		For the sake of clarity I wasn't suggesting and nor do I think that the original poster was either, that an INDIVIDUAL union official was getting a 'back hander' for making such referral's. Referral fees exist, 'legally' and the union that I belong to most certainly does refer members to a specific personal injury claims firm, I have even had a mailing from them, and it wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't some referral fee involved. I am NOT suggesting that it is anything 'underhand' or illegal.
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johnmurray		#13 Posted : 30 May 2012 18:21:35(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Mr.Flibble wrote: Oh this does happen, with some Union Members getting payment from the Union Solicitors for referring someone who has had an accident, some even take copies from the accident book and pass them on... Really. You have reported this to the company data protection officer then ? Since the names and addresses are not supposed to remain in said accidents book, but be removed and securely stored, one supposes that a breach of the data protection act is/has taken place. I await confirmation from you that you have reported any and all such events to the requisite authority ?
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