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Linda G  
#1 Posted : 08 June 2012 12:25:34(UTC)
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Linda G

I am preparing a safety bulletin along the lines of necessity to have all substances correctly identifiable when decanting into spurious smaller containers (corrective action re recent external audit n.c.). I am looking for some real cases of where substances in unlabelled containers has led to a serious accident or incident (I feel that a horror story has more impact and any photos even more so)! Any heavy machinery/plant maintenance examples even better. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Many thanks Linda
SW  
#2 Posted : 08 June 2012 12:47:55(UTC)
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SW

Hi Linda G Type in a search engine "Decanting" "Chemicals" "Accidents" and there are a few Incident links displayed some where a person has drank the chemical and the outcome. Regards SW
Safety Smurf  
#3 Posted : 08 June 2012 16:37:18(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

I seem to remember a recent case of a young child dying as a result of drinking an orange coloured pesticide that was kept in a frdge at a potato farm.
A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 08 June 2012 16:48:41(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

yes We used to get samples of pesticides in assorted soft drinks bottles at one time.
Tomkins26432  
#5 Posted : 09 June 2012 11:35:04(UTC)
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Tomkins26432

Closest I've got was when setting up a horticultural training unit (fields, polytunnels, sheds etc.) for a training session in H&S I deliberately poured some lime cordial (nice bright green) into some 2 litre plastic coke bottles. When one student didn't pick up on it I pointed it out and asked what he thought: "It's squash." He replied "How can you be sure, it might be a pesticide that's been mixed and left lying around?" He picked it up - took a swig - and replied. "Nope: Lime Squash." I thought he might get a job with the Environment Agency, an invaluable tool for finding out what might be discharged into rivers.
Graham Bullough  
#6 Posted : 10 June 2012 23:34:30(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

During my HSE days I came across spare brake fluid or some other yellowish liquid decanted into a whisky bottle in a vehicle garage - it looked just like whisky but didn't smell like it. This led to very prompt action being taken to re-decant the liquid into a suitably labelled non-beverage container before any harm occurred. One tragic case I did read of in the late 1980s involved a young man helping a friend who had started to run a pub in North Derbyshire. He took a sip from a lemonade bottle behind the bar and needed urgent hospital treatment. It transpired that the previous landlord had aparently decanted spare caustic soda solution (used for cleaning out the beer pump pipes) into the bottle and then forgot about it. Despite surgery the tube between the man's throat and stomach was irreparably damaged. Consequently he could never eat or drink by mouth again and instead had to use an artificial tube connected to his stomach. The last I saw about the case was a local press report which mentioned that he was suing the former landlord for negligence. However, I don't know the outcome. Nevertheless, the circumstances provide a very strong lesson against decanting substances into inappropriate containers, especially ones associated with beverages.
terrypike  
#7 Posted : 11 June 2012 00:03:51(UTC)
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terrypike

Graham. I heard a similar story from a landlord who said he knew a landlord who got drunk the night before and poured a lemonade to settle his stomach, he also put the beer line cleaner in a lemonade glass and in his overhung state confused the two and died as a result of drinking the wrong glass. There is also the re-run of Poirot on Sky the other week where Hercule unmasks the murderess in the garden who then fends off Chief inspecor Japp with a garden fork and rushes into her husbands garden shed to drink from the bottle marked weed killer and commit suicide only to spit out a mouthfull of the deadly fluid calling her husband a fool for hiding his whisky in the weedkiller bottle. What's your poison.
Graham Bullough  
#8 Posted : 11 June 2012 10:07:59(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Linda - Since my posting last night I've managed to find on the internet more details about the pub incident at internethttp://www.thefreelibrar...alls+how+a...-a082169454 On a wider note it's understandable why empty drinks bottles tend to be used for other substances. They're readily available and evidently handy. Also, I wager that at least some forum users have one or more household chemicals in non-proprietary containers at home. I think I've got a chemical in an old glass vinegar bottle on a shelf in my garage, albeit - I should stress - with the original vinegar label removed or obscured and replaced by a label to identify its current contents. Also, my wife and I have long used a small 25cl plastic lemonade bottle for holding detergent for hand washing clothes while away on holiday. It's small, unbreakable and, crucially, re-labelled and marked to avoid anyone thinking that it contains anything drinkable. That reminds me, as I'm currently on holiday off the West Coast of Scotland, I need to wash my shirt and socks after a strenuous mountain walk yesterday and then set off for another shorter walk today, hopefully after the rain stops and with a breeze to keep the dreaded midges at bay!
Lizzie H  
#9 Posted : 12 June 2012 13:36:53(UTC)
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Lizzie H

My great grandmother died after drinking bleach which was stored in a lemonade bottle (in the olden days it was apparently sold round the houses in empty lemonade bottles, although that might be family legend)
Lawlee45239  
#10 Posted : 12 June 2012 13:51:23(UTC)
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Lawlee45239

Not really related, but my mother used to store potcheen in a wine bottle labelled POISON,
chas  
#11 Posted : 12 June 2012 14:19:27(UTC)
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chas

The link below refers to an incident where a person with learning difficulties drank dishwasher fluid that had been taken on a day trip in an orange juice bottle and died, five others also suffered injuries. http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2011/coi-se-002.htm In another case I remember an incident regarding a care home resident who ate chlorine tablets used for chlorinating water tanks, thinking they were extra strong mints. I believe he died too. If I can find the information I'll post it here.
Linda G  
#12 Posted : 13 June 2012 10:49:25(UTC)
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Linda G

thank you everyone for your contributions - all most helpful :-)
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