Welcome Guest! The IOSH forums are a free resource to both members and non-members. Login or register to use them

Postings made by forum users are personal opinions. IOSH is not responsible for the content or accuracy of any of the information contained in forum postings. Please carefully consider any advice you receive.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Andrew1973  
#1 Posted : 18 June 2012 13:46:02(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Andrew1973

We operate a Health and Safety Committee here which is chaired at Director level and has representatives from each area of the business. I act as adviser to the committee. Upon reviewing the membership recently, I found that with the exception of the Union H&S Reps and one or two members, the majority don't have any formal H&S qualifications.

I am going to suggest to the Chair that all members should attend a minimum of IOSH Working Safely (unless they already hold a higher level qualification). I know that I'll meet resistance from some quarters!

Does anyone out there who operates a H&S Committee, specify a minimum level of training/qualifications for members? If so, how did/do you encourage members to undergo training?

We have a licence to run this course in-house so members could be trained easily and at relatively low cost.

Thanks.

Bob Shillabeer  
#2 Posted : 18 June 2012 14:03:52(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
Bob Shillabeer

Are they trade union safety reps, if so the union should provide them with any training they feel is required not the management. That does not stop you providing the training but what if after they are trained the union appoints someone else to undertake the role, you could be on an ongoing training provision road. If they are not union appointed you face a different issue but none the less you could open up a can of worms that would be hard to control as time goes on. You are the H&S Professional and can give guidance to all parties on the committee and by building trust and sharing your expertise they will gain from your experience and that will cost nothing.
jay  
#3 Posted : 18 June 2012 14:16:52(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
jay

The IOSH "Working Safely" course is unlikely to be suitable for highlighting the "roles & responsibilities" of the Health & Safety Committee, although it is not "roles & responsibilities" that you have referrred to, but a general lack of formal Health & Safety qualifications of the committee embers except the Union members.

My view is that although formal qualifications courses may be useful, the courses need to be targeted for the appropriate roles.

A way forward can be an in-house session on the roles & responsibiolites of the committee followed by seperate sessions for "managers/supervisors". Depending upon the organisation structure and size/responsibilites, you may want to have a seperate session for the Director or bunch it with the managers.

bilbo  
#4 Posted : 18 June 2012 14:54:09(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
bilbo

Andrew - a similar post was made earlier in the month see
http://forum.iosh.co.uk/...spx?g=posts&t=105431

I agree with jay - courses should be targetted.
A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 18 June 2012 14:55:27(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
A Kurdziel

I am going to play devil’s advocate here.
Do members of the H&S committee need a special H&S training?
I assume that the committee will have some representation from your H&S professionals. They should be in a position to provide advice on what is and is not acceptable from the H&S point of view. The role of the other committee members is to bring their own knowledge to the table, be it what the organisation does or how it does it. Unlike a committee full of H&S ‘experts’, the non-H&S bods can often the ask those ‘stupid’ questions which turn out to the questions that nobody has ever considered.

DP  
#6 Posted : 18 June 2012 15:12:53(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
DP

With regards training it depends on what you what them to do and this again I presume will depend on the industry you are in and what skill set the reps will require.

My view on safety reps is that they are a resource that should be tapped into but managed accordingly.

I cut my safety teeth as a safety rep in heavy industry - my Union and employer invested in me to enable me to do many aspects of safety management and support. The Union training back then was absolutely great and on par with the Gen Cert I discovered later when I moved onto the qualification.

You have to consider what you want them to do and what you want from them? Then decide on the specific development, if required.

Wherever I have worked - I have tapped into the safety rep support - currently in our DCs Behavioral safety audits are carried out by reps in conjunction with Line Managers

Many aspects of training are carried out by the reps e.g. manual handling and inductions - empower people to get involved and reap the rewards - I have.
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 18 June 2012 16:43:25(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user
Ron Hunter

I'm with A Kurdziel on this one. The only real skill required is the ability to communicate effectively.
The Consultation Forum should operate to some transparent terms of reference.

Good luck to you in suggesting that a Director attend the IOSH Working Safely Course............
Andrew1973  
#8 Posted : 18 June 2012 17:05:49(UTC)
Rank: Forum user
Andrew1973

Thanks all for your comments so far. That's definitely provided food for thought. The Director was included in the "one or two" members who already has a H&S qualification fortunately.
Users browsing this topic
Guest (2)
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.