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Well after five years of trying to get my foot in the door,think its time to give up.
Have a passion for H & S, due to being hurt myself in the past, now find myself out of work,and wondering if the money and time spent trying to get a H & S Career was worth it, IOSH fees due, and there is just no opertunities there, doom and gloom i know, but when you have a family, work long hours,and spend your own cash to "better" yourself, only to find,well its pointless,
thanks to folk who have helped in past
and continued success to all who have managed to get on the ladder
Cheers
Dougie
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Dougie
I would not give up totally but maybe just put it on hold while you find employment. I spent 7 years trying to move into health and safety but it was while being in different employment and I also had to self finance my qualifications. In the end I got there but it was a big step as I was in my late 40’s and this was a complete career change for me. That was only last year, I hope this helps as I know it wasn’t easy for me either.
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Scotswahey wrote:Well after five years of trying to get my foot in the door,think its time to give up.
Have a passion for H & S, due to being hurt myself in the past, now find myself out of work,and wondering if the money and time spent trying to get a H & S Career was worth it, IOSH fees due, and there is just no opertunities there, doom and gloom i know, but when you have a family, work long hours,and spend your own cash to "better" yourself, only to find,well its pointless,
thanks to folk who have helped in past
and continued success to all who have managed to get on the ladder
Cheers
Dougie What way do you want to get into safety?? As in do you want to work for a company, or do you want to become an instructor, or do you want to do freelance?? And what sector?? If you have a passion you will find a way, perhaps the previous companies would have been no good for you and it may have been a gods send to not have found the right job yet. Only you yourself can decide if you should forget about this one, but there is loads of options out there, just depends what route you want to take.
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Lawlee, its the total lack of opertunity, i got a phone call today from a agency , a couple of days in Scotland, a couple in England, your car, for less than i could get labouring on a site.
All exams at own cost and did while doing 12 hour shifts, studing at night or on rare times home, have done OU the same way,
and despite 30 years on sites,UK,and Abroad, Even my own work who i have been with 20 years overlook, because, its so easy to get a kid with a diplomer, there words not mine. Experience seems to count for nothing, and employers are looking for cheepest option, even when you offer to take pay cut.
just very disillusioned, i have three friends who have been give health and safety duties at work, none have a qualification, just willing to take on duties, for fear of losing there job.
there are folk who are far better qualified than me who cant get work,its rethink time for me
Thanks
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A sign of competence is when you realise that you have to stop what you are doing and move to another point and you are now demonstrating competence by voicing your thoughts so don't throw away what you have but feed your obvious talents in another direction as by doing so you will remove some frustrations and thereafter you never know what may happen as you will not knock a mountain down with your head
and irrespective of what many say this is the worst employment time since the 30's and I would despair if anybody challenged that view irrespective of what the telly says, if it says anything at all as the telly made that mistake in the past but has learnt its lessons, and its only going to get worse
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We are doomed :-(
Blimey Bob i know its bad out there but your post made me feel positively suicidal. Is it beer o'clock yet?
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Myself, I'm a trade unionist, prison officers association and proud of it. I've spent a good deal of time also getting qualifications and even had ambitions once upon a time of maybe using the training to climb the ladder within my organisation, recently did the familiarisation day with IOSH to deliver working safely for workers course to support my wife's workers (small carers company) as well as funding the PTTLS qualification in order to deliver first aid at work course. Now a member of my trade unions health and safety consultative committee advising on legislative and TU organisational matters. The point I'm making is that there is more than one way of using your talent, I'm having more fun doing what I'm doing, getting more satisfaction crossing swords with an intransigent management structure than I imagined I ever would when I started down this path. Keep your chin up and be open to other possibilities, they can come in the most unexpected ways
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Scotswahey wrote:Lawlee, its the total lack of opertunity, i got a phone call today from a agency , a couple of days in Scotland, a couple in England, your car, for less than i could get labouring on a site.
All exams at own cost and did while doing 12 hour shifts, studing at night or on rare times home, have done OU the same way,
and despite 30 years on sites,UK,and Abroad, Even my own work who i have been with 20 years overlook, because, its so easy to get a kid with a diplomer, there words not mine. Experience seems to count for nothing, and employers are looking for cheepest option, even when you offer to take pay cut.
just very disillusioned, i have three friends who have been give health and safety duties at work, none have a qualification, just willing to take on duties, for fear of losing there job.
there are folk who are far better qualified than me who cant get work,its rethink time for me
Thanks
Oh lord, not good. well only you can make the decision, it will be hard, would you consider setting up your own freelance safety, for your area, covering schools/ factories/ etc etc???
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Scotswahey wrote:Well after five years of trying to get my foot in the door,think its time to give up.
Have a passion for H & S, due to being hurt myself in the past, now find myself out of work,and wondering if the money and time spent trying to get a H & S Career was worth it, IOSH fees due, and there is just no opertunities there, doom and gloom i know, but when you have a family, work long hours,and spend your own cash to "better" yourself, only to find,well its pointless,
thanks to folk who have helped in past
and continued success to all who have managed to get on the ladder
Cheers
Dougie Dougie, Arguably you do not give up but you move on and much of what you have learnt is not wasted as you find that that this is very much used later in your career. I was in a similar position to you twenty years ago when we had a recession then. I failed to get through the door that I was pushing on, which was also crowded then, however I eventually learnt that a successful career will often choose you from the most unlikely direction, rather that you choosing it! Strategically if you are eventually seeking a senior management role, within construction there are many other opportunities. What eventually motivated me was back in the early 1990s we had a Prime Minister who, like me also left school without any qualifications.
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Dougie
In 1999 I was in my 9th year in a H&S post that was heavily overloaded. I had obtained the NEBOSH Certificate and was plodding my way towards the original 5 Module Diploma.
The senior management team decided in its infinite wisdom to create and recruit to a new post at the next grade up from me, but deliberately closed the recruitment process to me by requiring posession of the NEBOSH Diploma (I was 80% of the way there). My toys promptly left the pram, I sought an alternative position and vowed to never go back to the management side again, especially after 75% my job load was split between this new recruit and the guy above him.
So Gamekeeper turned Poacher and I offered my services to my Union as a Safety Rep and kept my H&S knowledge and skills refined over the years.
Then 2 years ago (just about 10 years to the last day in my previous H&S post ) an internal move was advertised seeking a person willing to sit the NEBOSH Certificate to manage H&S within one of our Directorates. My previous background put me in the frame immediately and the senior management team immediately agreed to send me on the current NEBOSH Diploma.
MORAL: never say never and keep your CPD hand in, you never know when it may pay you back.
Martyn
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Dougie, I feel for you, I really do.
But please take some comfort (I know it won't pay the bills) from all the previous good posts here.
This recession is awful and wont get better anytime soon but when it inevitable does your hard work and qualifications + your experience will stand you in good stead.
This profession has a way of presenting you with opportunities in the most unexpected ways, and besides, its the best job in the world!
Dress up your CV and bang it out to loads of agencies and the very best of luck for the future.
Jonty
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