http://www.scotsman.com/...ed-with-pupils-1-2381743

A couple of points: I'd be interested in who the forklift truck driver works for and what there thoughts are? The children obviously weren't all on the bus as that video is shot from the outside. What were the bus companies procedures/instructions to drivers for situations like this - not that uncommon to get a wheel stuck I wouldn't have thought

Well he could of gotten the kids off the bus before trying to move. He did some of them off as they were taking the video. Where did the vehicle come from? Did it just turn up? Was the action properly planned or did they just have a go. Did they identify the jacking point on the bus or did the just try to lift it (a recovery vehicle would know where the jacking points were on the bus) If he had wanted to improvise he could have: 1. Go the kids of the bus- a risks but safer than being in a bus being moved 2. Use d the vehicles to pull the bus off the grass hump. Not really impressed

Moray Council's response through its spokesman included the comments “Having seen the video footage we are satisfied there was no risk of the vehicle toppling and that there was no danger to any of the children.” If these comments are based on advice from vehicle experts, surely the video clip should be amended so that it shows the phrase "No children were harmed during the making of this video" !!!! On a more serious note, please can anyone with appropriate knowledge of buses advise whether the slight and controlled lifting by the telescopic loadall of the bus as shown on the video was likely to have damaged the bus? Also, bearing in mind the likely weight of the back part of the bus, was there any likelihood that the safe lifting capacity of the loadall would be exceeded? In addition, if numerous kids remained on the bus, perhaps the driver got them to go towards the front so as to reduce the weight at the back. (perhaps I'm still thinking of different ways to resolve the literal cliff-hanging scene involving a gold bullion laden bus at the end of "The Italian Job" film!) Also the circumstances also serve as an example of the increasing risk nowadays that where something goes wrong, even slightly wrong, someone, even a child, is likely to film it and then share the video on the internet. This can result in the whole matter being blown out of proportion as seems to have happened in this particular case.

m - my profound apologies for spoiling your viewing tonight. By the way, which version will you be watching? The proper original one starrring Michael Caine or the relatively recent (Hollywood?) re-make? I've never seen the re-make so can only speculate that it's nothing like as good as the original! On this note, perhaps I'm making unfair aspersions about the re-make. Mind you, on a much bigger scale, some people got themselves into a right lather about and condemned Monty Python's "Life of Brian" though they'd never seen it. The media attention they generated gave the film copious free publicity which apparently led to far more people seeing it than anticipated. :-)

Pete48 - good point about "safety campaigners". Like you I wondered who they are - perhaps a parent of one of the children or simply one or two people who heard about the matter and then contacted the journalist/s to express their concern. They could be people with a grudge against the driver and/or the bus company, and don't have to identify themselves or state their reasoning, just claim to be bus safety campaigners. Also, critical opinions tend to offer journalists more 'meat' to include in their reports. Not many people would be interested in a brief report about a video showing the back of a bus being freed from grounding on a raised grass verge and the fact that nobody was harmed or unduly delayed! If there's no actual jeopardy involved, journalists and others like TV presenters have to concoct it.