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Nikki-Napo  
#1 Posted : 03 July 2012 12:25:59(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Hi

I was wondering if I'm alone regarding this. I've been thinking about just staying GradIOSH, doing my CPD and leave it at that. Can I actually do this, or do I have an obligation to pursue chartered status?

I notice that IOSH have raised the fee for IPD. It's now £150.00. What with all the other fees you've got to pay on top of this, this is becoming a rather expensive exercise.

Also, I "would've" thought that it's not really worth pursuing Chartered status until or unless you're working within the H&S sector. Would this assumption be correct?
Norfolkboy  
#2 Posted : 03 July 2012 12:50:58(UTC)
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Norfolkboy

I think it depends upon your own circumstances. I am currently working on my IPD with a view to gaining chartered status. My motivation is that as part of my role I am working on all the elements required for chartered status. so no real extra work and that in an uncertain employment market it pays to have the best qualifications possible.
4 years ago having a Diploma was a passport to a decent role, now it is a minimum requirement for just about any role and I think unless there is a real change in the economy being chartered is going to be a requirement just to get to the interview stage.
Regards
Simon
Nikki-Napo  
#3 Posted : 03 July 2012 13:05:51(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

NORFOLKBOY wrote:
I think it depends upon your own circumstances. I am currently working on my IPD with a view to gaining chartered status. My motivation is that as part of my role I am working on all the elements required for chartered status. so no real extra work and that in an uncertain employment market it pays to have the best qualifications possible.
4 years ago having a Diploma was a passport to a decent role, now it is a minimum requirement for just about any role and I think unless there is a real change in the economy being chartered is going to be a requirement just to get to the interview stage.
Regards
Simon


Thanks for your reply Simon.

If I was in your shoes, I would pursue chartered status. Unfortunately, I'm not working so can't really justify the extra expense to go forward with it.
Murray18822  
#4 Posted : 03 July 2012 14:30:20(UTC)
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Murray18822

I have been actively searching for a new job up here in Scotland. Whilst it is true that many of the recruiters/employers seek a diploma and chartered status as an essential requirement, there are quite a few that require a NEBOSH certificate and relevant experience. Stick with what you have for the moment and try and get some experience - (perhaps easier said than done I know!).
chris42  
#5 Posted : 03 July 2012 14:59:34(UTC)
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chris42

I have just discovered you can do this, literally an hour ago. When I come to the end of my IPD cycle and if I still do not have a job, then I will drop the idea of becoming chartered at least for a while. My decision is very simple, I don't have £150. Mind you the internet may also have to go, so CPD at the library should be fun.
Garfield Esq  
#6 Posted : 03 July 2012 21:44:56(UTC)
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Garfield Esq

Nikki-Napo wrote:
Hi

I was wondering if I'm alone regarding this. I've been thinking about just staying GradIOSH, doing my CPD and leave it at that. Can I actually do this, or do I have an obligation to pursue chartered status?

I notice that IOSH have raised the fee for IPD. It's now £150.00. What with all the other fees you've got to pay on top of this, this is becoming a rather expensive exercise.

Also, I "would've" thought that it's not really worth pursuing Chartered status until or unless you're working within the H&S sector. Would this assumption be correct?



I have been Grad since 2009 and just keep it ticking over via CPD. No issues or pressure from IOSH. Chartered no real advantage at this time for me, however good to maintain Grad - you never know!
Fletcher  
#7 Posted : 04 July 2012 08:30:18(UTC)
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Fletcher

I am sure there used to be a time limit of 5 years from becoming Grad in which you could become Chartered then I think you had to go through more hoops if you wanted to move up to Chartered. Don't know if this still applies
David H  
#8 Posted : 04 July 2012 19:55:02(UTC)
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David H

Nikki - haqve you asked IOSH? Only they can give you the right answer - and that may change in the future?

David
alan w houghton  
#9 Posted : 05 July 2012 07:40:15(UTC)
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alan w houghton

Nikki

I can only tell you from my experience

I was happy originally with my Tech status as I thought my job was safe

Suddenly made redundant and due to me be comfortable never moved on, needless to say I was very fortunate to get another position within health & safety I told myself get to the chartered status in case it happens again I wanted to be sure I was where I needed to be

I have now achieved chartered status and was happy I have done so, it’s got me rise in work both in position and financially

I would say go for it - good luck with whatever you decide
Nikki-Napo  
#10 Posted : 05 July 2012 12:22:22(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

What kind of things/projects could I attempt for the IPD, bearing in mind I don't have an employer.
Is it actually possible to get to chartered status "without" being employed? I wouldn't have thought so, but would like to hear others' experiences.
potts2030  
#11 Posted : 05 July 2012 16:11:56(UTC)
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potts2030

I was in a similar position earlier this year and was told that it is possible as it can be taken into account that you do not have employment. I seem to remember someone saying that IOSH would reduce the fees for those who were unemployed.
chris42  
#12 Posted : 06 July 2012 10:26:01(UTC)
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chris42


Nikki

I have been in this position for a while and it is technically possible from what I understand. The problem is the evidence you need, is evidence that you have advised and carried out certain duties. This is obviously a problem if you are unemployed as I am. If you could give advice to a charity or some club etc you may be able to build up the required evidence, which indeed it was suggested to me to volunteer. You could also become self-employed and so will gain evidence from that activity. One other possibility is that if you are employed doing something other than H&S you could ask your employer if you could carry out some H&S projects for them and build up your portfolio that way.

The problem I have encountered with volunteering is charities mostly want foot soldiers to collect money. If you start giving advice to clubs or whatever, you need insurance. Becoming self-employed at the moment is tricky, but again technically possible.

IOSH may be willing to let you see the various criteria you need to fulfil, this would help you make your own mind up on whether or not it is possible for you to achieve the outcome required. I'm not sure though in order to get this information if you have to register on IPD and pay up. IF you do pay you get a pack of info which is relatively self-explanatory.

I think any subsidy from IOSH if out of work only applies to membership, and not the IPD, but would be happy to be wrong.





ian_the_ex_medic  
#13 Posted : 13 July 2012 08:13:00(UTC)
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ian_the_ex_medic

Nikki,

In my experience I don't think there is any specific pressure to move from Grad to CMIOSH. Certainly I've been sat at Grad level for a few years and no one has indicated that I must move upwards. Its only recently when I discovered through a friend that with certain circumstances a member may be exempt from the open book exam, that I decided to go for chartered. (I guess I'm fortunate I fall into that catagory so can save the IPD charges) Don't forget its not just paying for the IPD the peer interview is another 70 something quid.

Whether or not to bother going for CMIOSH is very much a personal decision, there is another thread currently running on that very subject.

Best of luck with whatever you choose,

Rgs

Ian

Nikki-Napo  
#14 Posted : 13 July 2012 10:46:41(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Thanks for all your replies.

Hopefully, this year will see me secure my first post, and then I can proceed with my IPD.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#15 Posted : 13 July 2012 12:09:40(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Nikki-Napo wrote:
Hi

I was wondering if I'm alone regarding this. I've been thinking about just staying GradIOSH, doing my CPD and leave it at that. Can I actually do this, or do I have an obligation to pursue chartered status?

Nikki
I'm with Garfield and you for stopping at Grad. status. If I was younger (now 55) I might have been tempted to go on further, at days end its the quality of the person not the number of certificates they that will get the job done. Grad.IOSHers UNITE!

Badger
firestar967  
#16 Posted : 13 July 2012 13:10:46(UTC)
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firestar967

I have to admit that I have started the IPD process but I am also very busy and find it hard enough keeping my CPD up to date (just spent a good two hours catching up on that today). I don’t really need CMIOSH so I don’t have the motivation to complete the IPD (just wish I had thought of that before paying for it two years ago). I also asked for a mentor at one time and that didn’t happen, so no real support, so lost interest. Think I’ll stick with the Grad as well!
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