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HSE_Steve  
#1 Posted : 08 July 2012 21:11:07(UTC)
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HSE_Steve

Hi Everyone, i've recently been informed that I'm at risk of redundancy, and have a 30 day consultation period in which to justify why my role should be kept. One of the points I intend to make is that in my region (England) there are around 550 full time employees (and lots of labour only contractors) and if get finished there will only be 3 safety professionals. This seems very low for such a high hazard industry (waste management), and although my company have quite low RIDDOR rates in comparison to waste management overall, they are still extremely high compared to what I'm used to, 20 RIDDOR incidents the year before last and 6 last year. I know there is no legislations that states how many there should be, and I dont believe there is any guidance anywhere so my question to the forum is 'How many safety professionals does your organisation have for the number of employees?'. Many thanks in advance Steve
SNS  
#2 Posted : 08 July 2012 23:19:34(UTC)
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SNS

Hi Steve, Sorry to hear of your position, there have been a couple of similar threads recently. Questions generated by your points: Your area is 'England', is this sub-divided? Does the role include traveling to sites to do audits and advice visits? 550 full time - are they centralised or spread out around the country? Do a SWOTLE analysis to see if the employer is being reasonable in reducing their corporate capability in this way, will they have sufficient competent advice from the (potentially) remaining staff or will the loading be too much? The guidance is the requirement to have suitable competent advice, the direction this comes from is not laid down, internal or external would both be sufficient if it proved to be ok if tested by the regulators or courts. Build your case as if applying for the job from scratch, what does the company need, what do you offer. How long have you been there, performance appraisal reports etc etc. Is it your post individually or one of the total of 4 posts which is under review. You don't need to answer these in the forum, just maybe use them as pointers for the uncomfortable time ahead. Also, check and update your CV, see what entitlements you may have for support from the company if you are unlucky and selected for redundancy. Build a negotiation base and try to not be negative about the company in any of it - they may let you go and want you back, or you may want to return at some stage. Not many people in the process chain will be happy about reducing the workforce, at whatever level, but all businesses are coming under more pressure to get more from less. Lastly, it may be an opportunity for positive change. Hope that it works out as you want it to, however that may be when you know it. Regards, S
Jake  
#3 Posted : 09 July 2012 09:02:43(UTC)
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Jake

I think it entirely depends on the organisational set up. Granted I'm in a lower risk industry than yourself, but there's 3 safety professionals looking after 10,000 employees. We cover the macro issues, policy direction, represent the company, new developments etc. and let line management get on with managing day-to-day H&S as part of their role. Your organisation may be the opposite, and on the flip-side some organisations will have a larger team for less employees than yourself! Also make it clear the business benefits you bring by being employed, cite previous initiatives / changes etc. that you have advised that have led to increased productivity / reduced AFRs etc. which translate into saving the business money.
teh_boy  
#4 Posted : 09 July 2012 10:05:36(UTC)
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teh_boy

To answer the question Previous Job = textile manufacturing - 330 employees (about 10 RIDDOR / year) - 1 Safety Person (me :( ) Other jobs Top Tier COMAH (Carcinogens) chemical plant - 110 employees (apparenlty 0 RIDDOR / Year) - 4 in the safety team + several Chemical Engineers to support Tope Tier COMAH (Pertrochem) - 30 ish Employees (0 RIDDOR / Year) - 2 in the safety team + 2 supporting engineers Note in all of the above - line managers were trained and responsible for Safety, the teams I have quoted refereed to persons responsible for management of safety Hope that helps and good luck!
HSE_Steve  
#5 Posted : 11 July 2012 08:32:07(UTC)
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HSE_Steve

Thanks for your replies everyone. SNS thanks in particular - thats given me a slightly different slant on how to approach the process. Regards Steve
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