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Lojikglos  
#1 Posted : 17 July 2012 08:01:29(UTC)
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Lojikglos

Hi Guys Hope everyone is enjoying yet another great british summer. Wondering if someone / anyone can shed some light on this one. During the course of his normal duties an employee was required to post a card , informing the occupant they had vsited to do a pre booked task but the occupant was either out or failed to answer the door. When he lifted the heavy type letter box flap and posted the card a dog on the other side of the door gripped a couple of his fingers and gave him a nasty bite. The employee in question recieved medical treatment as a few nails very well may be lost and he has been abscent from work for seven days not including the day of the incident but including weekend. Is this a RIDDOR by virtue of the fact it is seven days abscence? As usual thanks in advance to all and any who reply. Right im off to buy some new flippers
HSSnail  
#2 Posted : 17 July 2012 08:40:25(UTC)
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HSSnail

Yes Nice ans simple for once
teh_boy  
#3 Posted : 17 July 2012 08:41:12(UTC)
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teh_boy

YES - reportable http://www.hse.gov.uk/ri...r/what-must-i-report.htm and b) how on earth did he get his fingers in far enough - the mind boggles!
Terry556  
#4 Posted : 17 July 2012 08:49:42(UTC)
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Terry556

Reportable,
safetyamateur  
#5 Posted : 17 July 2012 09:29:36(UTC)
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safetyamateur

Becomes reportable on the eigth day.
Graham Bullough  
#6 Posted : 17 July 2012 09:44:38(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

In response to teh_boy's comment, the employee probably had to use considerable force to get the card into and through the letterbox. During this process, the force needed suddenly diminishes with the result that fingers used for the pushing motion tend to go through the letterbox. Many household letterboxes tend to have flaps with strong springs, sometimes with internal brushes as well, and thus seem to be designed and made to make posting items, especially flimsy items like leaflets and small envelopes, through them as awkward as possible, and certainly with little regard for anyone trying to insert items through them. For those who have to deal with awkward letter boxes and/or ones with dogs behind them, I understand that a short wooden ruler or similar item is very useful as an improvised implement for holding open spring loaded flaps and/or pushing items through letterboxes. If there's a dog behind the door, it can only try to grab the end of the implement - the poster's fingers remain safely outside the door. No doubt forum users involved with postal delivery workers will be able to expand on the above aspects.
User is suspended until 03/02/2041 16:40:57(UTC) Ian.Blenkharn  
#7 Posted : 17 July 2012 10:24:21(UTC)
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Ian.Blenkharn

Never mind damaging letter boxes with a wooden stick. Just getting post delivered on time would be a great start.
A Kurdziel  
#8 Posted : 17 July 2012 10:47:04(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Yes it becomes a RIDDOR on day 8. We have had similar with our inspectors being bit
PIKEMAN  
#9 Posted : 17 July 2012 10:54:09(UTC)
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PIKEMAN

As it happened at work this would make it reportable, however the question is not being "off work" but "able to do normal work". A lot of people still refer to these incidents as "lost time incidents" - however it changed in 1995!
m  
#10 Posted : 17 July 2012 12:40:29(UTC)
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m

Lojikglos wrote:
....a dog on the other side of the door gripped a couple of his fingers and gave him a nasty bite....
Did he put anything on them? No, the dog liked them as they were
HSSnail  
#11 Posted : 17 July 2012 14:21:18(UTC)
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HSSnail

Pikeman Quite right its unable to do normal duties - which if the employee has been away from work I thought that was a given.
Peter Clifton  
#12 Posted : 17 July 2012 16:12:56(UTC)
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Peter Clifton

Hi, The post office have been using biros to open letter boxes for years. I used to work for a firm that delivered parcels and we had a nasty incident where a dog pushed passed the house owner then lunged at the person delivering the parcel. Bit him in the face. Nasty. I contacted the central post office at Liverpool and spoke to the H&S Officer, She let me have a copy of the Post Office H&S video. It contained five nine minute clips (one section included dog bites). We used the dog bites section and the section on delivering parcels as trained aids. In my experience, there are a lot of very good dvds produced by companies inhouse.
Lojikglos  
#13 Posted : 17 July 2012 19:10:37(UTC)
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Lojikglos

to all who replied/offered advice Nice one guys much appreciated Please check my latest thread as once again would appreciate any advice or experience in that matter Oh . . .and believe it or not it is actually sunny where I live now . . . who would have thought!
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