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walkera  
#1 Posted : 01 August 2012 16:45:54(UTC)
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walkera

After many years as a H&S Practitioner I've finally decided enough is enough and I'm moving on in a different direction.
Though I've loved my job I feel that it seems to have lost its focus as the reason I adopted this career path is I wanted people to be safe, not get hurt and go home in the same condition that they came to work. Now however the job seems to have moved further towards administration (due to insurers and not safety practitioners) and for want of a better phrase 'backside covering' in all directions.

It's also become monotonous when people expect me to wave my magic 'safety wand' and fix all their ills.

The ridicule that we are also subjected to via the media, and also the governments stance on our profession has also had a bearing. I used to be proud to tell people that 'I'm a Safety Manager, I try to stop people getting hurt and I save people's lives'. Nowadays if anyone asks I'm tempted to say 'I'm a Plumber!!'

Please don't think I'm a Moaning Minnie who's having a bad day I just wondered how others out there feel?

Andy
Clairel  
#2 Posted : 01 August 2012 16:59:20(UTC)
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Clairel

I'd be joining you if I could (I'm not prepared to take a massive salary cut and have no other skills) and I know others feel the same as I've had this conversation with others too.

Good luck to you.

Do we get to know what your new career direction is?
Jeff Watt  
#3 Posted : 01 August 2012 18:46:01(UTC)
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Jeff Watt

AW long time no see.

I've talked to a few people who went out and invariably they want back in after a short time. If you didn't care it wouldn't annoy you, that's the curse of the profession.

Jeff
Zimmy  
#4 Posted : 01 August 2012 19:11:39(UTC)
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Zimmy

Good luck Walkera

I'm sure that along the way you have saved at least one person by your actions.

Take care (not a pun) So sad to loose someone who cares.

Rob
Canopener  
#5 Posted : 01 August 2012 20:05:22(UTC)
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Canopener

Andy

I think many people go through the same feeling on any number of different jobs, and I would be lying if I were to say that I haven't felt the same. Keeping the spark alive can be difficult. Many of us will have had our advice ignored, lack the genuine demonstrable support of senior management and my personal favourite is the almost constant clamour for a risk assessment to be done, only for the actual content of the assessment to be totally ignored. Hopefully you'll find the motivation to continue, if not then good luck in whatever you do.

Plumber! Any good at mending leaky taps?
walkera  
#6 Posted : 02 August 2012 09:30:36(UTC)
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walkera

Mr Watt

How nice to hear from you again. I'll PM you my number and we can have a catch up. No Jeff I don't think I'll return, but then again never say never.

Clairel I'm moving over to auditing or as one colleague said 'Turncoat you're moving to the dark side'.

Rob thank you for you kind words. I also like to think that along the way I've saved at least one.

Safety people will always have my utmost respect for their dedication and caring attitude. As Jeff says we wouldn't do the job if we didn't care. That said it'll be nice to sleep at night :-)

Andy
redken  
#7 Posted : 02 August 2012 09:36:01(UTC)
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redken

"I'm moving over to auditing"

And we all know that auditing never kept anyone safe !
Lawlee45239  
#8 Posted : 02 August 2012 09:36:08(UTC)
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Lawlee45239

walkera wrote:
Mr Watt

How nice to hear from you again. I'll PM you my number and we can have a catch up. No Jeff I don't think I'll return, but then again never say never.

Clairel I'm moving over to auditing or as one colleague said 'Turncoat you're moving to the dark side'.

Rob thank you for you kind words. I also like to think that along the way I've saved at least one.

Safety people will always have my utmost respect for their dedication and caring attitude. As Jeff says we wouldn't do the job if we didn't care. That said it'll be nice to sleep at night :-)

Andy


Best wishes in the new venture
walkera  
#9 Posted : 02 August 2012 09:39:11(UTC)
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walkera

redken wrote:
"I'm moving over to auditing"

And we all know that auditing never kept anyone safe !


But far less stressful!!
Andrew W Walker  
#10 Posted : 02 August 2012 09:45:14(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

quote=walkera]
redken wrote:
"I'm moving over to auditing"

And we all know that auditing never kept anyone safe !


But far less stressful!!



Good answer!

It is sad to lose a practitioner who does care about the people.

Best of luck with your auditing career.

(another)Andrew Walker
RayRapp  
#11 Posted : 02 August 2012 10:11:39(UTC)
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RayRapp

walkera

Best wishes with your new venture.

I have changed professions several times and now I'm too long in the tooth to consider another occupation, but not too far away from retirement...thank the Lord.
walker  
#12 Posted : 02 August 2012 11:23:22(UTC)
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walker

I tend to agree with you Andrew.
But I'm in the same boat a Claire

I used to say I'd carry on with the job I love even if I inherited a vast sum of money.
I'm somewhat ashamed to say my main motivator these days is my pay packet.

Best regards

(yet another) Mr. Walker
Invictus  
#13 Posted : 02 August 2012 11:45:16(UTC)
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Invictus

Agree it is all about paperwork, I started as union rep and used to relish the arguments with management about safety and people going home in the same condition they arrived. I have been on the other side a number of years now but find that the unions don't have the same enthusiasm that I have about people going home safe. They seem to be waiting ready to pounce. I still enjoy the difference everyday brings.

I am also an auditor and find that all I am doing is arguing with myself about the amount of documentation that I want to see that I haven't produced because I think it is just being over zealous. If you know what I mean! Good Luck.

walkera  
#14 Posted : 02 August 2012 14:39:03(UTC)
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walkera

Thank you all for your kind words.

Carry on fighting the good fight and you never know I may be seeing some of you in the future.

Best wishes

Andy
walkera  
#15 Posted : 02 August 2012 17:00:43(UTC)
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walkera

Sorry I couldn't leave it at 13 comments as I'm superstitious

Andy
Victor Meldrew  
#16 Posted : 02 August 2012 17:44:07(UTC)
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Victor Meldrew

All the very best walkera - "....how do others feel"? Well, I feel the same as you to be honest. Fortunately I'm similar to Ray Rapp, too long in the tooth; also I'm semi-retired & subsequently 'cherry pick' my clients. In fact coincidently, I 'got rid' of a client about an hour ago, cause they aren’t listening & I can't be bothered to be honest in 'pushing water up hill' & then before logging on, counted the days in my diary when I am not working - If I needed the money/work I think I'd certainly do similar to you..... 'things ain't what they used to be', but mustn't grumble as I've probably had the best years. Very best wishes on the audit trail.
GeoffB4  
#17 Posted : 02 August 2012 17:53:59(UTC)
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GeoffB4

RayRapp wrote:
walkera

Best wishes with your new venture.

I have changed professions several times and now I'm too long in the tooth to consider another occupation, but not too far away from retirement...thank the Lord.


That's not the Ray Rapp I know. The secret is not to take it too seriously ... no matter what, and to appreciate that you are not able to change the world.
RayRapp  
#18 Posted : 03 August 2012 14:00:08(UTC)
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RayRapp

Hi Geoff, stopped trying to change the world many moons ago...now just looking forward to seniors golf next year - fore!
lisar  
#19 Posted : 03 August 2012 15:28:47(UTC)
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lisar

I must admit , I do feel like a traffic warden. Sometimes mentioning health and safety works in your favour. Whislt at Pizza Hut , the hot glass plates shattered so I told them that they werent allowed to serve the food currently on it. They did as I told them ( I didnt work there bear in mind). Then when they thanked me for letting them know , my partner mentioned my role and then for some reason we all got free desert?
John M  
#20 Posted : 03 August 2012 15:54:13(UTC)
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John M

Oh how I wish we had a credible Merchant Navy again where H&S nonsense was unknown.

Cannot really complain after 27 years service and fortunately I don't have too much exposure to trivia in my present role.

Jon
Invictus  
#21 Posted : 06 August 2012 08:59:41(UTC)
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Invictus

John M wrote:
Oh how I wish we had a credible Merchant Navy again where H&S nonsense was unknown.

Cannot really complain after 27 years service and fortunately I don't have too much exposure to trivia in my present role.

Jon


I gather by health and safety nonsense you are not talking about the real issues in health and safety. I was talking to a friend on friday who informed me that a worker with him who was 17 had been given a nail gun toi use and the nail went through his hand, I asked him had he been trained and did he have a specific assessment for him. As usual he ranted about how health and safety was stopping them doing work etc. I asked the question if it was your son how would expect him to come home. He refused to answer and text me the next morning apologising and said it was the first time he had thought about it using his son as an example. I asked the question again and he text ' in the same condition as he went out in' job done. He owns the company and is now looking at specific assessments and training for young workers.

Just as a side note my dad broke both ankles in an accident that could have been prevented in the so called so called 'credible merchant navy ' I wonder how many others have been injured or killed whilst serving?
rasput1  
#22 Posted : 06 August 2012 09:20:28(UTC)
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rasput1

The Andy Walker I know???
Safety butterfly  
#23 Posted : 06 August 2012 09:30:43(UTC)
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Safety butterfly

Hi Walkera, and everyone else,

I as sorry to hear you feel this way about your rolls within H&S, I have been working in this roll for 6 years as a part time assistant / coordinator within a QA roll and currently looking for a full time position as H&S and Risk Assessments are my passion.

Walkera,

Good luck, and I hope you have a Safe and Healthy future. :)
rasput1  
#24 Posted : 06 August 2012 09:38:00(UTC)
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rasput1

rasput1 wrote:
The Andy Walker I know???


Seth
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