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bob youel  
#1 Posted : 06 August 2012 09:40:57(UTC)
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bob youel



for info - Ben Elton writes a comedy about a local government official who is head of the Health & Safety department! http://www.telegraph.co....ocal-council-sitcom.html
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 06 August 2012 10:04:43(UTC)
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bob youel

Whilst you should not hang until the trial is over and I have not seen anything yet; my comments are that as the person is being portrayed as an 'exasperated everyman' that means to my eye that it is yet another 'go' at H&S with only negatives being highlighted

That said the public are not as easily fooled as those in certain positions think that they are so this may prove a good marketing exercise. However watch this space
Graham Bullough  
#3 Posted : 06 August 2012 10:29:09(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

bob - thanks for the information. I agree that when the pilot programme is broadcast (the article doesn't seem to give any date), it would provide a useful opportunity for OS&H professionals to react to it according to how it portrays OS&H. Also, from a look through the comments below the web article, it's good to see that someone who uses the pseudonym molesey_mole, presumably with OS&H and/or local authority experience, has made some pertinent comments about the proposed programme.
User is suspended until 03/02/2041 16:40:57(UTC) Ian.Blenkharn  
#4 Posted : 06 August 2012 10:42:51(UTC)
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Ian.Blenkharn

Let's hope there is an episode about the anguish of deciding the frequency of toilet cleaning!
A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 06 August 2012 11:33:49(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Equality Impact Assessments- the real cutting edge in the public sector.
rasput1  
#6 Posted : 06 August 2012 11:45:20(UTC)
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rasput1

Having worked in Private then Public then Private sector again (Health and Safety). I will be very interested in the angle taken. Surely everyone should accept that this is a comedy and shouldn't get all het up about any negative health and safety message.

As a final comment, I'd like to add that the H&S department in the local authority I worked for were the hardest working and most progressive department there (not particularly hard to achieve that title though due to the amount of dead wood).

I also noticed how naive Public sector employees are with regards to a proper job in the Private sector (my opinion).
walker  
#7 Posted : 06 August 2012 12:11:11(UTC)
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walker

Was it David Haig who played the exasperated DI in that police comedy with Rowan Atkinson?

If so that character pretty much sums up how I feel most of the time
HSSnail  
#8 Posted : 06 August 2012 12:16:35(UTC)
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HSSnail

As others have said it supposed to be TV not the real world. If comedy reflected real life I would never have visited a leisure centre again after watching the Brittas Empire many years ago - when actually all I really needed was therapy for watching such rubbish!
walker  
#9 Posted : 06 August 2012 12:32:52(UTC)
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walker

I'm hoping he really rips into H&S.
Anyone who takes offense (particually before it's even aired) needs to re-assess their life priorities IMHO.

Something akin to Twenty Twelve would be great.

redken  
#10 Posted : 06 August 2012 12:53:04(UTC)
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redken

Ian.Blenkharn wrote:
Let's hope there is an episode about the anguish of deciding the frequency of toilet cleaning!

He is using the forum for his source material. We may need to look out for strange postings from newcomers or in the toilet case from our sensible regulars who have may have turned rougue
Melrose80086  
#11 Posted : 06 August 2012 12:54:49(UTC)
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Melrose80086

I'm guessing it will be along the lines of The Office...sort of "fly on the wall" type thing bringing up elf and safety stoopidity and the main character has to investigate and advise..hopefully in a positive light rather than making him out to be a jobsworth who hides behind a desk and stacks of paperwork.

Time will tell I suppose...
Barnaby again  
#12 Posted : 06 August 2012 12:58:54(UTC)
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Barnaby again

redken wrote:
Ian.Blenkharn wrote:
Let's hope there is an episode about the anguish of deciding the frequency of toilet cleaning!

He is using the forum for his source material. We may need to look out for strange postings from newcomers or in the toilet case from our sensible regulars who have may have turned rougue



He probably has gone a bit rouge
Graham Bullough  
#13 Posted : 06 August 2012 13:41:40(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

To my earlier response I should add that anyone who does decide to respond to the pilot programme after it is broadcast should remember that television programmes are made mainly to entertain viewers. Information and education are evidently less important functions to the extent that (to pinch and adapt an expression from the film "Brassed Off") if Lord Reith were alive today, he'd be spinning in his grave! (Reith was the first director-general of the BBC and held strong views about broadcasting as a way of educating people.)

Also, one of rasput1's comments reminds me of inspecting for HSE the headquarters of a local authority accompanied by its sole safety adviser in the mid-1980s. When I asked him how many people worked at the place, he wittily replied "about 50%". Though the premises were quite extensive, they were clearly "low risk", so the inspection consisted of fairly fleeting visits to different departments and parts of the premises plus discussions with various people in order to get an overall impression about the premises and, more importantly, the council's OS&H culture and arrangements. Also, just in case forum newcomers see this thread, I'd better add that if we looked at any toilet & washing facilities, a fairly cursory glance would probably have been sufficient to tell us about the adequacy or otherwise of cleaning regimes and also the attitude of employees to such facilities!.

p.s. hope the responses to this topic won't degenerate into a brawl about public sector-v-private sector.
sadlass  
#14 Posted : 06 August 2012 19:03:54(UTC)
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sadlass

I'm looking forward to this - the linked article talks of it being set in the 'dysfunctional world of local government'. This description has not provoked any reaction, so that part, at least, must be real.
Canopener  
#15 Posted : 06 August 2012 20:30:55(UTC)
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Canopener

Local Government; dysfunctional? Now who would have thought it! :-) I bet Keith Lard watches it!
firesafety101  
#16 Posted : 06 August 2012 21:21:24(UTC)
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firesafety101

If you can't take a joke you shouldn't have joined.

Why not just have a look and a laugh at what is intended comedy television and not the real world?
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