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jamiep898  
#1 Posted : 06 August 2012 15:41:38(UTC)
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jamiep898

Good afternoon all, I am hoping that some of you could give me some advice on the following. I have had a call today from a member of our team who has been doing some survey work of occupied social housing estate. He gave me a call to tell me that he had left the previous house he had surveyed covered in fleas. I should note that allot of these houses are not in a very clean condition, to say the very least. He asked me what he should do. I must admit that this is a new one on me so other than telling him and his colleague to go home have a shower and change their clothing, I was at a loss of what to suggest. Can anyone tell me if there is anything else that I should have advised him to do? Also going forward, this is not a hazard that we have been aware of or that has been risk assessed. I am conscious that this will not be an isolated occurrence due to the reason stated in the second paragraph. I am aware that the hazard needs to be assessed, the relevant control measures put in place and a safe system of work created that all of our other employees can work to. Does any one have any suggestions on what I can put in place to prevent this from happening again? I not even sure of the adverse health effects of fleas, other than incessant itching. I know that they bite but is there anything else that is detrimental to human health that I need to consider? Many thanks in advance.
Clairel  
#2 Posted : 06 August 2012 15:59:44(UTC)
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Clairel

As far as I am aware fleas don't live on people so whilst they may get bitten whilst in the homes of flea infestations I don't think there is an issue beyond that. I would have thought long trousers would prevent biting fleas. Someone may correct me though.
User is suspended until 03/02/2041 16:40:57(UTC) Ian.Blenkharn  
#3 Posted : 06 August 2012 16:18:55(UTC)
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Ian.Blenkharn

The use of disposable coveralls and an effective knock-down spray before and after their removal should suffice
jericho  
#4 Posted : 06 August 2012 16:28:35(UTC)
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jericho

I think that SSoW might be the wrong terminology here. What you really need to establish is a procedure. It's not a case of deviate from 'rules' and an accident will occur. Semantics to some maybe, but to me, a SSoW is about achieving something particular where the steps are interdependent and must be followed in that right order etc etc. This sounds more like something for employees to use in making decisions - a framework if you will. Not forgetting accessible support for them too Personally I would seek some advice from a specialist before perhaps spraying things inside rooms. Whilst this is not a huge health hazard (do we still have plague?) I would think that for the people concerned it could be quite a major issue. We had a similar issue with bed bugs and I know I wouldn't want to be bringing those home to my family. Jericho
F Brown  
#5 Posted : 06 August 2012 16:49:23(UTC)
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F Brown

Yes you should be providing a SSOW for visiting peoples homes notwithstanding the fleas issue, you have many more hazards from vicious dogs to characters unknown to your staff visiting the residents (and everything from needles to rubbish in between). A little trick i learned in my Housing days was dropping white paper on the floor. If there is an infestation fleas will quickly appear on the paper. Dont stay, make an excuse and leave. Use a good quality knock down spray before getting into a vehicle and waiting a few minutes. A small single first aid kit was supplied with wipes, cleansers etc for cleaning up. Residents who were infested were directed to pest control while vacant properties were treated (these properties are where you can wear the paper overalls). Vacany infestations are a whole other issue...... By all means contact me if you want any further info. I hope after 17 years in social housing i can at least give you some tips. Flea bites are a problem if they get infected and long trousers dont always help - the little blighters get right up your trouser legs! I found tights worked wonders but the guys wont wear them for some reason..... :)
Safetypipper  
#6 Posted : 06 August 2012 17:04:02(UTC)
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Safetypipper

If you suspect any sort of flea infestation in the house then it would not be in your contract to continue working / with the job. I would refer back to Social Housing and get pest control to deal with the infestation before you complete the job. Some of our male employees used to wear tights but the spray seemed to be the most successful. Anyone who has been bitten by a flea will tell you it is not nice and the scratching lasts for ages.
chris.packham  
#7 Posted : 06 August 2012 17:42:28(UTC)
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chris.packham

Try contacting your local Environmental Health Officer. They will probably be able to offer you some practical advice. Chris
bob youel  
#8 Posted : 07 August 2012 07:41:23(UTC)
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bob youel

Some good info here so take note and an infestation of [cat flea's especially] flea's is not nice, can be very unhealthy and you can take them home to your nice clean house where they will drop off your body/clothing and breed/lay eggs until they want their next feed then they hop onto you [or your new baby] again Most of the anti flea substances that you could buy openly from a shop do nothing. The only useful substances that were* [*were: I do not know what is used today] used to spray cats were very very hazardous to humans and they did kill/contribute to the cats death on many an occasion I studied fleas some years ago so I suggest that you do the same as they are fascinating things, thereafter you can then account for them in your risk assessments that you have for such work and its cat fleas that are the problem in my experience as their fleas can live for a very very long time in a 'void' without food and then you come along vibrating the place [its vibrations as you walk etc. that activate them] 'yummy!
jamiep898  
#9 Posted : 08 August 2012 15:36:40(UTC)
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jamiep898

Thank you all for your replies. Very much appreciated. F Brown, if I could take you up on your offer of sharing your information it would be of great benefit to me. I presume with knockdown sprays I would also need to complete take into consideration the COSHH elements and also any medical conditions our employees may have that may be affected by the use of sprays such as these. I like the white paper on the floor tip and I am sure that I can train our guys to make an excuse to leave, although do we not have a duty of care to let the tenants know of the infestation as well as the client. They may be unaware! Wearing tights, I look forward to suggesting that one! Coveralls are not a problem because we are an asbestos consultancy so we issue all of our operatives with a plentiful supply of disposable coveralls and booties as part of our standard kit. Thanks again for all of your advice and tips, I don't know what I would do without you all!
sadlass  
#10 Posted : 08 August 2012 17:24:21(UTC)
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sadlass

Jamiep898. Duty of care to let a tenant know they (may) have a flea infestation? You might want to think 'duty of care' to avoid worker getting thumped by annoyed / insulted tenant! Seriously, I do not believe you have a duty of care in this matter. The actual health risk is low, despite your concern, and, more legally relevant, it is not of your making.
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