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ctd167  
#1 Posted : 17 August 2012 09:24:46(UTC)
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ctd167

I'd be interested to hear my learned colleagues views on the use of this item.
teh_boy  
#2 Posted : 17 August 2012 09:38:21(UTC)
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teh_boy

The HSE suggest they are not a control measure as they do not limit exposure to vibration (only potentially change frequency) They can help keep hands warm (an actual control measure) or help with grip of appliance But should not be used as an actual control measure.... Limit of time / low vib equip etc
Lawlee45239  
#3 Posted : 17 August 2012 09:44:50(UTC)
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Lawlee45239

ctd167 wrote:
I'd be interested to hear my learned colleagues views on the use of this item.
I'm not very learned, nor do I think I will ever be in this field!! But in the past, where I have worked with guys who have worn these, they said they didnt like them, as they were bulky, leading to you having to grip more. But that was a number of years ago, so perhaps the sytles have altered. As with everything though, the hierarchy should come into play, and PPE should be the last resort, so sourcing low vibration tools would be better.
chris.packham  
#4 Posted : 17 August 2012 09:55:10(UTC)
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chris.packham

Take a look at: http://www.hse.gov.uk/vi...ication/warmclothing.htm I think that this will answer your question Chris
Brian Greenwell  
#5 Posted : 17 August 2012 10:41:08(UTC)
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Brian Greenwell

I put these into use once for a trial on a particularly bad tool (air chisel). There is no way of knowing what benefit you get, so it is not really a control. But, you have got to do the job and you are doing all the other good stuff, then maybe they are better than a standard glove. They were very expensive, and we ended up using welding gauntlets as the operator preferred these. Of course we limited exposure time, did health surveillance, etc. too.
paul reynolds  
#6 Posted : 17 August 2012 10:56:39(UTC)
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paul reynolds

We tried these and to be honest the operatives found them more of a hindrance, if you are using suitable control measures, health surveillance etc then the best option we found was for the operative to use a quality well fitting glove which provide warmth in the cooler periods but also encouraged them to keep wearing them due to the comfort. In short don!t waste your money on these and spend it on quality gloves. Regards PaulR
ctd167  
#7 Posted : 17 August 2012 12:31:37(UTC)
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ctd167

Thanks for your input everyone. Its part of our health surveillance process already and I'm in the process of assessing our tools themselves (which I think I'm going to have to replace) I appreciate these gloves wont form part of my control measures but our group H&S person mentioned I should at least consider them. My original thoughts were no, you've all confirmed there 'efficiency'
Zyggy  
#8 Posted : 17 August 2012 14:06:58(UTC)
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Zyggy

In a previous life we looked at a number of these which used sorbothane or viscolas (I think!) as the "dampening" agent in the gloves. Our conclusions mirrored that of other posters, i.e. too cumbersome, therefore increasing other hazards & if they were worn with vibratory equipment at certain frequencies, then it actually magnified the vibration! HSE experts at the time suggested that these products were not much use, except to warm the hands. Indeed, I was sent one pair with an accompanying 50 page technical data sheet, & on the first page there was a disclaimer stating that they may not be effective...I stopped reading at that point & we never progressed the matter. Zyggy
Clairel  
#9 Posted : 17 August 2012 14:17:11(UTC)
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Clairel

The HSE don't just say they don't help the problem, their experts say they make the situation worse by compelling the user to grip more tightly and therefore feel more vibration. If you want warm hands use thin gloves not anti-vibration gloves.
teh_boy  
#10 Posted : 17 August 2012 18:13:22(UTC)
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teh_boy

Clairel wrote:
The HSE don't just say they don't help the problem, their experts say they make the situation worse by compelling the user to grip more tightly and therefore feel more vibration. If you want warm hands use thin gloves not anti-vibration gloves.
@Claire I can't PM you about reading that out of context! :) - It's Friday night and if I reply to this in public I might suffer the wrath of the mods.. oh wait :) Happy weekend everyone... ttfn
RP  
#11 Posted : 17 August 2012 21:14:07(UTC)
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RP

They are not really 'anti-vibration' are they, if they were then where did the vibration go?? Just a Friday thought...
boblewis  
#12 Posted : 20 August 2012 10:18:04(UTC)
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boblewis

My primary concern with almost every glove I have seen is that they are very water absorbent and then become hard once dry. Bad for the operative and employers budget. Strict rotation of work and good warm gloves in winter, autumn and spring or when cold:-) are the only options to reduce individual exposure if you really need to use such equipment. I presume you are approaching scabbler lance levels in which case the whole task and reasons need to be reviewed for a different technique of work. Or you are going to need a very large number of operatives. Have you done any measurements on these chisels? If not now is the time or abandon them completely or your insurers will have a run of claims in the future. Bob
Sandan  
#13 Posted : 20 August 2012 16:05:16(UTC)
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Sandan

RP wrote:
They are not really 'anti-vibration' are they, if they were then where did the vibration go?? Just a Friday thought...
May just be a tongue in cheek remark 'but' unless you divorce the operator from the vibrating tool/machine then the maximum the gloves will do is keep your hands warm.
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