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Well Grayling has gone
Shame really, as he had just about stopped talking like the leader writer of the daily wail and had uttered a few sensible sentences.
Who will "we" get next?
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walker wrote:Well Grayling has gone
Shame really, as he had just about stopped talking like the leader writer of the daily wail and had uttered a few sensible sentences.
Who will "we" get next?
Can't remember any sensible sentences. Doe's it really matter who we get next?
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Given that in my experience most politicians haven't the foggiest notion of what occupational health and safety really involves, should we really anticipate anything positive from the changes?
Chris
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Mark Hoban is the minister of state for employment at DWP, the post that includes H&S
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In keeping with some responses on this forum, I trust that a risk assessment was carried out before the deckchairs were re-arranged. Also, how many deckchairs were involved and were they heavy? Did the re-arrangers have appropriate training in manual handling? .... or have I made a mistake by reading the thread title in a literal sense?!!!! :-)
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Graham Bullough wrote:In keeping with some responses on this forum, I trust that a risk assessment was carried out before the deckchairs were re-arranged. Also, how many deckchairs were involved and were they heavy? Did the re-arrangers have appropriate training in manual handling? .... or have I made a mistake by reading the thread title in a literal sense?!!!! :-) Evidently Hoban is an accountant so at least there will be the right number - unless another cabinet minister has stolen them.
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Deck chairs on the Titanic I presume?
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walker wrote:Graham Bullough wrote:In keeping with some responses on this forum, I trust that a risk assessment was carried out before the deckchairs were re-arranged. Also, how many deckchairs were involved and were they heavy? Did the re-arrangers have appropriate training in manual handling? .... or have I made a mistake by reading the thread title in a literal sense?!!!! :-) Evidently Hoban is an accountant so at least there will be the right number - unless another cabinet minister has stolen them. Remember most accountants need to make 2 + 2 = 5 so don't expect the number of deckchairs to be correct!
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To avoid any misunderstanding my response at #5 was simply a piece of fun. Also, no apologies to anyone who thinks that humour on this forum is restricted to Fridays!
Now for a serious response in hoping that appropriate opportunities are taken by IOSH and other organisations in OS&H to try to inform Mark Hoban the new minister what real OS&H is about as opposed to the myths about burdens, etc. The document "40@40" by Prospect would surely help in this regard as it contains succinct and easy-to-read testimonies about a range of situations encountered by HSE inspectors in their work.
For a link to the document, look for the thread "40@40" which at present is back on the top page of this forum.
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Graham Bullough wrote:
...................to try to inform Mark Hoban the new minister what real OS&H is about as opposed to the myths about burdens, etc.
Grayling reminded me of an overexcited puppy who kept wetting on the furniture. I think Judith (at the HSE) had just about managed to put away the rolled up newspaper, but will she have to resort to the same tactics with the new one?
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Graham Bullough wrote:To avoid any misunderstanding my response at #5 was simply a piece of fun. Also, no apologies to anyone who thinks that humour on this forum is restricted to Fridays!
Graham, I don't think anyone misunderstood your attempt at humour, a pleasant if brief adjourn from your normal stoical but informative postings - LOL!
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But let's not ignore where he has gone. One of the findings to come out of the initial Lofstedt report was that decisions made in criminal and civil courts have been influencing employers' actions in they way that they approach safety. That is to say, the potential to go beyond that which is really required - in order to provide a defence rather than to ensure a safe place of work. Could there be a glimmer of hope that Chris Grayling will take this thought with him to the MOJ and sow the seed of balance in the minds of the judiciary; in that restoring proportionality is something they need to consider?
What do you mean, 'no?'
Sigh
Jericho
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I think you will find his new job is to lock up more crooks.
However, the definition of crooks does not include businessmen killing empolyees, nor bankers and MPs committing fraud.
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