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#1 Posted : 05 September 2012 17:12:27(UTC)
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m

Flak jackets on this autumn as Ben Elton targets local council H&S offices starring David Haig (D C Grim in The Thin Blue Line) as a pendant. Described on the blurb as:

"Few Council Officers take their commitment to the health and safety of the public more seriously than Gerald B Meakin. A man dedicated to the minimisation of risk, even where no actual risk exists.

"If only Gerald were able to control his own life with the same benevolent despotism with which he regulates other peoples'. Sadly he can't. A recent divorcee and new single dad, Gerald's personal life is just one long struggle against the petty irritations and inconvenience which bedevil all our lives. Those 21st century slings and arrows of outrageous fortune against which Gerald's lengthy rule book is no defence at all."
David Bannister  
#2 Posted : 05 September 2012 17:57:00(UTC)
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David Bannister

Hopefully an excellent opportunity for our profession and Institution to promote ourselves as the antidote to bumbling fools. Public realisation of stupidity of total risk avoidance.

Looking forward to it.

Maybe a wakeup call to the bumblers like Yes Minister was to some politicians and civil servants and Fawlty Towers was to some hoteliers.
DP  
#3 Posted : 05 September 2012 18:04:51(UTC)
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DP

Nice thought David and I hope so but in reality do you think the general public really know the difference between a safety manager and a regulator - they think we are all the same - sticking out noses in with clipboards and high viz jackets - I note this is not as dig at the honorable profession of enforcement (ha ha)

That the perception in the main. This will only fuel it.

Lets enjoy it for what it is.
leadbelly  
#4 Posted : 05 September 2012 18:23:20(UTC)
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leadbelly

Is David Haig just going to hang around then?

LB
Betta Spenden  
#5 Posted : 05 September 2012 20:18:16(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

I wonder if there will be an episode where he posts on a health and safety forum site?
roshqse  
#6 Posted : 06 September 2012 08:57:51(UTC)
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roshqse

Look forward to it, but then I suppose how the character is portrayed?

Is he the 'odd one' that obviously goes too far and is seen to be a fool by his colleagues?
Or will he be shown as 'normal' and this is how the whole H+S culture operates?


But hey, it's only a sit com!
RayRapp  
#7 Posted : 06 September 2012 09:46:54(UTC)
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RayRapp

I suspect a bumbling idiot with risk averse tendencies. It's a shame I think a missed opportunity to show someone in his position with scant regard to safety would have been much funnier..."don't worry about edge protection, just crack on with it lad".
Graham Bullough  
#8 Posted : 06 September 2012 10:20:16(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Guess we'll just have to emulate pendants and hang about in great suspense for the series to be broadcast before the questions posed above are answered!

In the meantime, I reckon we shouldn't be worried about the series. Does anyone with police connections know if any police officers and/or the Police Federation were bothered/aggrieved by how the police were portrayed in the "The Thin Blue Line"? Also, admittedly going back several decades, were any hoteliers bothered/affected by "Fawlty Towers" other than the one upon whom Basil Fawlty was allegedly based regarding his attitudes and treatment of guests? Anyhow, we can't do anything about what is to be shown. Just wait for the inevitable flurry of discussion on this forum following the first episode: How many minutes will elapse between the end of the first episode and the first posting of a reaction? :-)

On a semi-whimsical note I'm curious, after having worked as an OS&H adviser within a local authority, as to whether the scenarios and attitudes, etc. to be portrayed by the forthcoming series will be as wacky as in real life!!! Some forum users may recall the TV medical drama series "Cardiac Arrest". I've read and heard that a quite a lot of doctors liked it and thought that, compared with other TV medical drama series, its episodes were a reasonably accurate reflection of situations and attitudes in hospital. However, after the first series was broadcast, apparently no more were commissioned because most viewers either didn't understand or like the 'dark' humour employed. By comparison, numerous episodes of "Casualty" with their far-fetched scenarios have been made over many years presumably because research by/for the BBC indicated that substantial numbers of viewers enjoy watching them.
hilary  
#9 Posted : 06 September 2012 10:58:32(UTC)
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hilary

I think the main thing here is that ..... we ALL know the bloke on whom it was based.

I can guarantee he will be a jobsworth, imagining issues, following the letter of the law to the point where it becomes ridiculous and unworkable and I don't know about any of you, but I certainly know one or two people exactly like that!!!

I wait with bated breath, I think it will be very funny :D
roshqse  
#10 Posted : 06 September 2012 11:39:57(UTC)
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roshqse

They're called Auditors aren't they?

Yossarian  
#11 Posted : 06 September 2012 13:31:07(UTC)
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Yossarian

roshqse wrote:
They're called Auditors aren't they?



I thought it was Middle Managers?
Graham Bullough  
#12 Posted : 06 September 2012 13:41:03(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Is there any truth in the rumour that Ben Elton gained at least some of his inspiration through looking at this public discussion forum?!!!! It surely contains many examples of pedantry, obsession with legal requirements, nit-picking, etc, etc for him to have used while crafting the characters and scenarios for the sitcom. :-(
Yossarian  
#13 Posted : 06 September 2012 13:46:03(UTC)
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Yossarian

That very much depends on who started the rumour Graham.
NLivesey  
#14 Posted : 07 September 2012 09:26:13(UTC)
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NLivesey

Real life difficulties aside it's a good thing this is from Ben Elton. Blackadder II-IV and the Thin Blue Line are a couple of of the comedy staples for me. If David Haig's character is anything on a par with DC Grim then it's going to be a good start by any measure.

It's interesting that we fear how this may adversely affect the perception of our profession but there's a strong possibility of a positive effect. Think about Rowan Atkinson's character in the TBL, as much as he was the butt of most of the jokes he (mostly) came out on top by the end of each show.

Looking forward to it personally...
Tigers  
#15 Posted : 07 September 2012 14:34:50(UTC)
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Tigers

Still prefer Dom Jolly.

We had a local EHO who was gullible , we used to run him ragged.

A couple of lads were dismembering some pallets to take home as fire wood. He asked what they were doing to which one replied making a vivarium (a container to keep poisonous reptiles in - even with the slats in place it would be no use), he asked what one was no-one replied so he walked away to Google it.

The guys were in hoots of laughter when he rushed back with a manager to announce "you cannot keep snakes in a food factory".

By this time the pallets were chopped small enough to fit into a ford fiesta!
A Kurdziel  
#16 Posted : 07 September 2012 16:46:00(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

We one had enquiries from the local authority about the apiary that was marked out on our plans. They wanted to know what precautions we had when it came to managing chimps and gorillas and whether we needed a zoo licence!
NickH  
#17 Posted : 07 September 2012 16:52:06(UTC)
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NickH

A Kurdziel wrote:
We one had enquiries from the local authority about the apiary that was marked out on our plans. They wanted to know what precautions we had when it came to managing chimps and gorillas and whether we needed a zoo licence!


Did you tell them to buzz off?
Renny Thomson  
#18 Posted : 10 September 2012 13:59:22(UTC)
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Renny Thomson

Graham Bullough wrote:

On a semi-whimsical note I'm curious, after having worked as an OS&H adviser within a local authority, as to whether the scenarios and attitudes, etc. to be portrayed by the forthcoming series will be as wacky as in real life!!! Some forum users may recall the TV medical drama series "Cardiac Arrest". I've read and heard that a quite a lot of doctors liked it and thought that, compared with other TV medical drama series, its episodes were a reasonably accurate reflection of situations and attitudes in hospital. However, after the first series was broadcast, apparently no more were commissioned because most viewers either didn't understand or like the 'dark' humour employed. By comparison, numerous episodes of "Casualty" with their far-fetched scenarios have been made over many years presumably because research by/for the BBC indicated that substantial numbers of viewers enjoy watching them.


Life in H&S with a LA is certainly "interesting and varied", particularly within Social Work.

As for "Cardiac Arrest", it was written by Jed Mercurio, who at the time of writing it was a Junior Doctor, and I agree that many medics, including my wife, thought it fairly accurate in may areas.
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