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What is everyone's opinion on this?..
Our operatives frequently use boomlifts and MEWPS for access to the top of plant.
They are always secured to the bucket / cage.. they attach (using twin tail lanyard) to the plant.. then disconnect from bucket / cage.
They're trained, experienced at heights, equipped and vigilant.
The reason we do this incidentally and not use ladders is for various reasons. Ground conditions, height , locality of live high voltage, (rather go waving ladders around!)
Some clients are happy with this, some are not.
Opinions? Please?
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You will never make everybody happy?
If they are using double lanyards as fall restraint and not fall arrest how can you better that IMO?
Far to many PCs think everything has to be fall arrest and dont realise the benefits of fall restraint.
As you say your operators have been trained they are using the correct equipment. I would be asking the people not agreeing to it to tell you what you are doing wrong especially as you are complying with the WAH Regulations.
They still might not back off because that is the world we live in.
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I suspect you're right on this one.
However I'm then stuck then implementing a work method I'M not happy with! (ladders in a hazardous area)
Who's responsibility is it ultimately? My staff, my responsibility!
sigh....
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All advice I give in similar situations is given in writing. If then the PC wants to use a different method and things go wrong ........ well!!??
Enough said!!
Rich
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Ultimately if's the PC's decision, and if you are not happy with their decision try to work with them or walk away.
In any case, to discuss the practice you describe;
I'd be a little nervous with this, but it would depend on the set up and location of the bucket / cage in relation to the plant that you wish to alight to (i.e. more info needed!).
HSE guidance states that user should not exit a MEWP at height, you're risk assessment will need to go into detail as to why you feel it is safe.
If using a boom lift is this located "on top" of the landing area or to the side of it? I.e. what are the consequences of a fall? Using a scissor lift I'd guess you'd only be able to get to the side.
We allow contractors to exit boom lifts at height when accessing our roofs (only way of actually getting onto the roof bar us installed cat ladders), but under strict conditions. The basket has to be located at least 2m inside the roof edge and next to the roof man-safe system, and as you describe a double lanyard is needed and operatives to always be attached. We only permit boom lifts, as a MEWP clearly cannot get the operative 2m inside the edge of the roof. This lowers the risk, as the consequences for stumbling / fallign whilst exiting the boom basket are marginal, the operative would fall to the roof which is essentially the same level as the base of the boom basket.
Clearly the risk is greater if you use a MEWP and it's located to the side of the landing area, a fall to the side could result in a fall to the ground below. Consider:
- Is this an acceptable risk
- Is a fall restraint lanyard appropriate (if a fall occurred a fall restraint lanyard could cause serious damage to the user, this risk is not present with the method I mention above).
Sorry for waffling.
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Please waffle away!
HSE 'recommends' not leaving the cage, but recognises that it may be required.
We use a boomlift to the top of high voltage substation transformers.
Big structures with flat tops.
The cage would be positioned over the top, so like you say, the operator would step out the cage, do what he has to do (unbolt 4 bolts!) and get back in.
The twin tail lanyards are fixed restraint ones. The aim being not to fall off at all.
That's it. Nothing else.
The options are ladders, towers or scaffold. All on unstable loose surfaces, with nearby high voltage exposed equipment.
You know, I wouldn't mind so much, but the has all come about because of THEIR poor record of using mewps and boomlifts.
We have NEVER had an accident involving this operation or equipment. Never!
We must be doing something right??!!
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From a WaH perspective (I'm not an expert on transformer stations etc.) your method seems reasonable.
roshqse wrote:
The twin tail lanyards are fixed restraint ones. The aim being not to fall off at all.
Agreed, and in mine (and your clarified) example this would be correct.
The risk arises if you are transfer "sideways" from a MEWP basket / cage that is not on top of the landing area. Whilst transferring (and depending on the location of the anchorage point) the lanyard hasn't actually prevented you from accessing an area where you could fall, hence why we would not allow such a practice (a fall arrest lanyard should not be used within a MEWP due to the risk of toppling the machine etc.).
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