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martin sprange  
#1 Posted : 13 September 2012 15:28:33(UTC)
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martin sprange

We have several Dumper trucks we use on and off site. what legislation apart from road traffic act is relevant to these? specifically for insurance purposes?
RP  
#2 Posted : 13 September 2012 18:18:54(UTC)
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RP

Must have Category B licence, aged appropriate to the weight of the dumper, check it is insured for such use, seat belt must be work (must be worn anyway). Dumpers are classed as exempt goods vehicle.
RP  
#3 Posted : 13 September 2012 18:19:58(UTC)
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RP

And a beacon...
roshqse  
#4 Posted : 14 September 2012 13:28:38(UTC)
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roshqse

Red diesel?

I believe you cannot use red diesel on the road except for short journeys. Though I don't know what the limit would be.
RP  
#5 Posted : 14 September 2012 13:32:47(UTC)
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RP

It is often difficult to determine what a short distance actually is, site to site via a highway can be a short distance, someone here will no doubt know... The equipment is classed as plant so red is OK...
johnmurray  
#6 Posted : 15 September 2012 11:51:38(UTC)
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johnmurray

roshqse wrote:
Red diesel?

I believe you cannot use red diesel on the road except for short journeys. Though I don't know what the limit would be.



8.15 Works trucks
To qualify as a works truck the vehicle must be a goods vehicle designed for use in private premises. It must only be used on public roads:

(a) for carrying goods between private premises and a vehicle on a road within one kilometre of those premises,

(b) in passing from one part of private premises to another,

(c) in passing between private premises and other private premises in a case where the premises are within one kilometre of each other, or

(d) in connection with road works at the site of the works or within one kilometre of the site of the works.

In the context of this category a goods vehicle is a vehicle constructed or adapted for use and used for the conveyance of goods or burden of any description (whether in the course of trade or not).

Typical works trucks include fork lift trucks, ‘shunt’ vehicles designed to haul articulated trailers and their goods around sites and special vehicles which lift and move freight containers around sites. Typically, the vehicle will have a maximum speed well below road traffic speeds of 30 mph+ and will lack many of the features, such as braking and lighting systems, required under the Road Traffic Act 1988.

http://customs.hmrc.gov....MCE_CL_000164#P181_16924
jfw  
#7 Posted : 15 September 2012 17:40:53(UTC)
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jfw

johnmurray is correct.

It should be classed as a "works truck" providing it meets the criteria.

In addition, to drive a Works Truck on a public highway, it must be both registered and taxed. The driver must have the correct category of driving licence and be insured.

Registration plates must be displayed either on the front/back or each side of the vehicle.

The tax disc must be displayed and the cost will depend on the gross weight and fuel. Quite a few categories fall into a "Nil" value.

A Works Truck does not require an MOT, but its use will fall into the realms of PUWER.

With regard to red diesel, yes it can be used in a Works Truck. (If it was not, how could farmers drive their tractors on the road ?).
johnmurray  
#8 Posted : 15 September 2012 17:48:22(UTC)
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johnmurray

jfw wrote:

With regard to red diesel, yes it can be used in a Works Truck. (If it was not, how could farmers drive their tractors on the road ?).



Or land rovers, and other diesel cars they own ;-)
TD  
#9 Posted : 16 September 2012 10:26:18(UTC)
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TD

In regards to "Correct" driving license. For a 16 ton counterbalance fork lift which we drive on the road between yards ( road taxed etc) what level of driving license is required. The guys we have ,have the appropriate forklift training,UK driving license(for cars) and are insured by the company. Is this enough !!!

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