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I've tried searching CSCS and CSCS cards on the discussion site but the program seems to seize up.
Query: A company providing cleaners for newly built houses is insisting their yellow visitors card is adequate and has always been accepted. My understanding is that a white/grey card should be obtained and that the yellow card is for visitors not carrying out tasks on site. Telephoning CSCS ends up sitting on the end of a ringing phone ...........
My question is: Is the visitors yellow card similar to a miscellaneous file in the filing cabinet - it can be used for anything?
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GeoffB4 wrote:
My question is: Is the visitors yellow card similar to a miscellaneous file in the filing cabinet - it can be used for anything?
Yes.
We have some highly qualified engineers who are highly qualified and experienced in specific things that CSCS don't recognise (one that springs to mind is a rock geologist with a handful of degrees and years of site experience) and are accordingly on visitors cards.
We also have quite a few graduates of overseas universities on visitor cards because the relevant university is not recognised by CSCS. In one case I had a Greek graduate who is PhD and a postgraduate degree from a serious greek technical university. CSCS wouldn't recognise either of them, but we did actually get her on a graduate card because she did a short course at a UK poly years ago...
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It can mean whatever you want it to mean such is the value of this system nowadays - Personal view
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I have become highly sceptical about the entire setup with so many competing accreditation schemes. I doubt that any of them actually increase site safety nor reduce ill-health.
What I am certain about is that they're a great money-making wheeze for a section of our community and probably are a major contributor to the "elf 'n safety gone mad" perceptions.
Ditto 18001.
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david bannister wrote:
What I am certain about is that they're a great money-making wheeze for a section of our community and probably are a major contributor to the "elf 'n safety gone mad" perceptions.
Latest run-in we had with them: their invoice didn't comply with proper requirements (no VAT number) and even more creatively they charged us VAT at 25%. Presumably this was cock-up rather than conspiracy, but really is it too much to expect their systems to actually know what the VAT rate is?
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Neither am I Ron. Their faq suggests two colours depending on your question.
CSCS say it should be a white/grey card (a cleaner doing construction related activities) but obviously don't care which colour it is as long as it has been paid for.
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Personally would agree with most of the post's regarding money spinning.
But in answer to your question this would all be down to your company procedure and the dilligence of the site manager when check cards in relation to the operatives trade. I know many will ask the question do you have a CSCS card, they will just photocopy and file, and access is granted. Sceptical I know!!
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Does CSCs not mean Construction Skills Certificate Scheme.
Cleaners doing construction = No
Skills = Well. yes
Certificate = er no it's a card
Scheme = oh yes definatly a scheme...
How would the cleaners upgrade their card to a skills card if there are no occupational routes that CSCS recognise.
I'd go for the yellow one - no construction skills, but at least they got ripped off for the card.
http://www.cscs.uk.com/cards/types-of-cards/
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I would have a good look at the task and exposure to risk then look at whether the cost of an upgraded card is worth paying for through the contract or if risk can be managed another way......
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