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redken  
#1 Posted : 10 October 2012 15:45:39(UTC)
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redken

Claire says "Being as I was trained by the HSE "
Garfield says "all due to my 'teacher', who was at the time, an HSE Principal Officer."

Would others like to share who trained them?
Steveeckersley  
#2 Posted : 10 October 2012 16:17:23(UTC)
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Steveeckersley

Apart from doing my General cert / Diploma part1. Iosh Risk assessors course IOsh manual handling Instructor & assessors course.
The person who actually taught me how to do it on a practical level was a Mr Ian Curphey who was at one time head of health & safety at Grampian primary care trust. His CV is probably very long but two notable positions in safety he held was at Dounrey Nuclear Plant and one of the Stations in Antartica. So He had some pretty broad experience as well as being qualified on paper and he was my mentor and I had the greatest respect for him.
jontyjohnston  
#3 Posted : 10 October 2012 16:19:14(UTC)
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jontyjohnston

I'm still learning :)
tabs  
#4 Posted : 10 October 2012 16:33:46(UTC)
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tabs

First time around Ford Motor Company taught me FMEA (it was 1980-ish so names escape me), then an ex-HSE Inspector when I did my degree (I remember her name, but I will save her blushes if she is on here).
David Bannister  
#5 Posted : 10 October 2012 16:33:48(UTC)
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David Bannister

The concept of risk being variable, measurable and how it affects decisions was inculcated in me during a career in general insurance, topped off by NEBOSH Cert & Diploma, Occ Hygiene PGC, Fire risk assessment training and is still ongoing
Invictus  
#6 Posted : 10 October 2012 16:35:46(UTC)
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Invictus

My mum and dad they showed me that fire was hot, boiling a kettle made the water hot and could scold, how to cross the road all sorts of things that I carried out through life. It gave me the sense not to rush in but to think about the outcomes.
JohnW  
#7 Posted : 10 October 2012 16:37:01(UTC)
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JohnW

I first was taught how to risk assess when I was a safety rep, the course was union T&G, that was back in about 1995.

The 5-step really 7 step as we all say here :o) approach was taught to me when I did the NEBOSH gen cert in 2006.

As jonty says, still learning. As a consultant, every new work situation I encounter seems to raise issues about knowing what and where are the hazards.
Zimmy  
#8 Posted : 10 October 2012 18:07:29(UTC)
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Zimmy

Meyrick, Louise and Loraine.

Thanks team xxx
Jeff Watt  
#9 Posted : 10 October 2012 23:40:23(UTC)
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Jeff Watt

Every-day’s a school day.

At the tender age of 20, taught how to do COSHH risk assessments by my sister who was a flavour chemist in a tobacco company (and the company lab safety officer). Ironic really as she sat there dragging on a menthol cigarette (free issue of course)
bob youel  
#10 Posted : 11 October 2012 07:20:53(UTC)
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bob youel

We are all still learning and learn every day. My initiation was with the Atomic Energy [old terminology] when I worked on nuclear projects in the early 70's and then offshore gas and the petro chemical industry again in the early 70's

the basic techniques are the same what ever you do from an equalities risk assessment to the use of a piece of equipment risk assessment and if you follow basic logic and tell the truth U cannot go far wrong

I find the hardest and most challenging but most likable by far risk assessments are the human behaviour coupled with humans who have disabilities assessments

The hardest of the lot are assessments that clash with politicial aims
jwk  
#11 Posted : 11 October 2012 09:49:38(UTC)
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jwk

Like others here I'd say I'm still learning, but the first person to teach me to do RAs was the consultant who was employed by a previous employer to produce a H&S management system, which was back in 1996. Since then it's been NEBOSH Dip, numerous courses and seminars, the IRM Dip in RM (still not completed) and working with some excellent safety professionals in this job and my previous one,

John
paul reynolds  
#12 Posted : 11 October 2012 12:53:23(UTC)
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paul reynolds

Mine started with an employer many years ago and went something along the lines of " the safety blokes left, have a go at some risk assessments as we need them for tomorrow" therefore I was my own teacher, however my most valuable asset is the person doing the job as they are a very useful tool and they know how they are really going to do the job.

Regards

PaulR
DaisyMaisy  
#13 Posted : 11 October 2012 14:03:41(UTC)
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DaisyMaisy

Training course with Croner and various challenging experiences and like Paul Reynolds above - talking to those that do the work
boblewis  
#14 Posted : 11 October 2012 19:32:21(UTC)
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boblewis

Some of us date from an era when RA was not a buzz phrase and we sucked dry all information sources and distilled it with long experience. Long enough to realise that the HSE does not really know what it means for them. I well remember the comment that if something had gone wrong then the RA was naturally deficient.

Bob
m  
#15 Posted : 11 October 2012 20:48:41(UTC)
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m

NEBOSH Cert and BSC Diploma, supplemented by CPD articles in SHP etc. Also MHO & DSE courses fed in to make the big picture
Jeff Watt  
#16 Posted : 12 October 2012 21:13:16(UTC)
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Jeff Watt

I remember an article in SHP once where the author said that if you take the Young Persons Regs, Confined Spaces Regs, Management Regs and the COSHH regs we can probably put together a RA for sticking kids up chimneys but it does not make it right. I have infuriated a few senior managers with that one when mission creep sets in and they want to do stuff on the cheap n nasty.
Graham Bullough  
#17 Posted : 14 October 2012 00:57:39(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Bob Lewis's comments at #14 might suprise some forum users with less than 20 years of experience in OS&H. However, it's fairly evident that "risk assessment" (RA) as both an expression and a process didn't enter mainstream OS&H until their arrival as an integral part of the COSSH Regulations in 1988. This was also the opinion of a retired senior HSE inspector with whom I discussed various OS&H issues about 2 years ago, coincidentally at a large derelict slate quarry in North Wales. If anyone happened to overlook the COSHH Regulations in 1988, there was no room for any doubt about RA as the main requirement of the Management of H&S at Work Regulations in 1992. For many experienced OS&H people in the late 1980s I guess that RA arrived as a welcome development. We had previously thought about and took decisions regarding hazards, risks, plus degree and likelihood of harm but had done so without the benefit of a clear logical framework to describe our thinking and then share our thoughts and conclusions with others.

As for an answer to the thread title, I also guess that those of us who were working in OS&H during the late 1980s didn't get specific training about RA from anyone at the time: We read HSE guidance plus various articles in OS&H journals, listened to speakers at meetings and seminars within and beyond the IOSH Network and had numerous discussions with colleagues, etc., partly based on past experiences and knowledge.
Betta Spenden  
#18 Posted : 14 October 2012 10:06:46(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

jeff watt wrote:
I remember an article in SHP once where the author said that if you take the Young Persons Regs, Confined Spaces Regs, Management Regs and the COSHH regs we can probably put together a RA for sticking kids up chimneys but it does not make it right. I have infuriated a few senior managers with that one when mission creep sets in and they want to do stuff on the cheap n nasty.


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