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DaisyMaisy  
#1 Posted : 14 October 2012 20:34:44(UTC)
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DaisyMaisy

your input appreciated on this one. Risk assessment for green keepers working on bunkers completed. Includes the need for mesh fencing during bunker work. They have baseballcap protective head gear . There have been no accidents for 20 years. The mesh protects them from any golf balls. They are alert to the point that if golfers are in the area they either get out of the way or use the head protection. Question - do you think they should wear the head gear all the time? Consulting with the employees brought up in their opinion they didn't need the head gear - any suggestions?
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 14 October 2012 21:04:09(UTC)
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RayRapp

Daisy

As an avid golfer I would say there is no need to wear head protection at all times. Basic precautions as you have already outlined will suffice. That said, if we are only talking about a baseball cap it's not too onerous anyway, however it offers little protection from an errant golf ball. There is of course always the risk of a being struck by an errant golf shot, but that risk also remains for all those playing on the course. Short of putting geenkeepers in protective armour there is not much more one can do in my opinion.

I presume the golf carts the greenkeepers drive around the course has some type of protection ie mesh roof/windows?

Ray
RayRapp  
#3 Posted : 14 October 2012 21:14:11(UTC)
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RayRapp

There is also a HSE publication which might be worth down loading - Health and Safety
in Golf Course Management an Maintenance.
Phil Grace  
#4 Posted : 15 October 2012 08:13:57(UTC)
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Phil Grace

You may like to consider this case...:

http://www.scotland-judi...-JAMES-GORDON-And-OTHERS

This establishes the liability of golfers and golf clubs towards other golfers. I think there is a message there for the liability of golf clubs towards employees who work on the course. I know nothing about golf but I have to ask whether the work needs to done whilst the course in in use. Slightly tongue in cheek since I guess courses are in use from dawn 'til dusk 7 days a week!

Phil
Stedman  
#5 Posted : 15 October 2012 09:15:56(UTC)
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Stedman

DaisyMaisy wrote:
your input appreciated on this one. Risk assessment for green keepers working on bunkers completed. Includes the need for mesh fencing during bunker work. They have baseballcap protective head gear . There have been no accidents for 20 years. The mesh protects them from any golf balls. They are alert to the point that if golfers are in the area they either get out of the way or use the head protection. Question - do you think they should wear the head gear all the time? Consulting with the employees brought up in their opinion they didn't need the head gear - any suggestions?


As a non-golfy player why don't you just close that hole down whist the work is taking place? Hazard eliminated!
DaisyMaisy  
#6 Posted : 15 October 2012 09:27:48(UTC)
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DaisyMaisy

thanks all - the golf course - as mentioned is in use during daylight hours 365 days a year so cannot close off to the members - the baseball caps are actually PPE and are for the purpose of head protection so do provide some kind of protection in the event of stray golf balls. thanks for the links will have a look through - many thanks as usual for your input guys great help.
Billibob  
#7 Posted : 15 October 2012 14:18:51(UTC)
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Billibob

As a keen golfer and having undertaken assessments for local courses there is a dual responsibility. First the golfer should not be taking a shot unless it is clear as it doesn't matter whether a greenkeeper is there or another golfer there is no difference. If it is a blind shot then you should have in place some means to communicate when the way is clear. If the bunker can be seen from the point where the ball is played then the golfer should wait until the green keeper temporarily clears to one side or observes the shot so they can see if the ball is coming in their direction. If the shot is blind though this will not be able to be done and it may be some temporary arrangement such as using of air horns to notify the greenkeeper a shot is about to be made so they are alert.
RayRapp  
#8 Posted : 15 October 2012 20:04:22(UTC)
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RayRapp

Billibob, I feel compelled to comment on your observations. Correct that golfers should not deliberately aim shots in the vicinity of greenkeepers working on the course and most will be patient and wait for them to clear the area. There are nevertheless occasions when the work requires a more sustained effort and golfers must be allowed to continue their round whilst the work takes place, hence the original question was about greenkeepers working in bunkers which could take many hours/days. Bunkers are not the normal aiming point for golfers but errant shots can go anywhere. Blind shots were not mentioned...using air horns, are you serious?

Phil Grace, with respect, the case you have provided does not establish liability. It is just one individual case which on this occasion was in favour of the claimant. Each and every case is judged upon the material facts. Anyway, the original question was about those WORKING on the course and being aware of the hazards posed from errant golf balls.

Apologies if it sounds like I'm ranting, but really...
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