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Hospital Boy  
#1 Posted : 18 October 2012 11:51:00(UTC)
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Hospital Boy

Hi ,

I have a new health centre which open 5 months ago (owned by a different PCT) and my trust has services and staff in parts of the building. A FRA was completed before occupancy, and when contractors were still working on the external areas. My questions is, when should a new FRA have been completed, when staff started moving in, months later? Also the pre occupancy FRA identified significant findings, which 7 months later are still outstanding?

Any advice would be helpful.

Regards
roshqse  
#2 Posted : 18 October 2012 12:05:16(UTC)
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roshqse

I would expect one to be done once construction works has ended as it is a significant change to the building use and environment.
It may not show up any changes to what was already in place but it's best to show that you have considered it and recorded it.

When you say significant findings outstanding, what kind?
If they were thing slike locked exits, missing exit route signs, faulty / missing extinguishers , they these shoudl be done immediatley they are found.

If it was more minor things such as extinguishers in wrong place or wrong type, then I
roshqse  
#3 Posted : 18 October 2012 12:06:35(UTC)
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roshqse

(oops.. butter fingers!)

Then I would suggest 7 to 10 days to change.

But in any case 7 months is ridiculous. ANY findings should have been addressed long before that.
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 18 October 2012 22:45:23(UTC)
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firesafety101

Every time there is a relevant change.

Could be personnel, numbers, type, staff, public etc.

At least as soon as the premises are occupied.

jwk  
#5 Posted : 19 October 2012 10:07:31(UTC)
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jwk

We are opening lots of new charity shops, and we do a 'desktop' FSRA on the plans, followed by a full FSRA about a month after people have moved in; this allows time for working patterns to develop, and for a working fire load to buid up. A FSRA at the construction phase only is not a lot of use, since the main aim is to protect 'relevant persons', and until the activity of those people is understood you can't really tell if you are going to protect them.

And yes, seven months to carry out actions seems on the face of it to be unacceptably long, though it would depend on risk. In our Care Centres & Hospices we expect high risk defeicits to be rectified more or less immediately, and certainly as soon as is practicable. Low risk stuff we might give 6 months, but that would be very low risk, something on the lines of tweaking a system to make it better or more efficient,

John
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