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SirGalahad  
#1 Posted : 31 October 2012 06:46:48(UTC)
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SirGalahad

Hi I have been informed by the MD that we will be hosting a visit from a local college of about 10-12 young people for about 2 hours on site. The site has 3 different businesses which belong to the same group, 1 waste transfer station, 1 main manufacturing factory, 1 transport garage (service & repair of HGV’s), 1 wood processing site –area.
The plan is to walk the main areas of the site and then do a Q&A at the end with refreshments included can any one assist in the kind of risk assessment I should produce? As far as close supervision is concerned we will have the MD, myself as the health and safety lead, along with two of the teachers.
Main hazards as far as I see are transport movement of vehicles around the site, slips trips & falls, FLT’s in and around the factory area would appreciate some help and the type of questions I should be asking the college and do I need to obtain parental or legal guardian consent?
Thank you Sir G
Irwin43241  
#2 Posted : 31 October 2012 08:59:34(UTC)
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The college should be asking you about what they want to get out of the visit and your plan for the visit. The college should also have sorted out parental / guardian consent.
As long as you brief the party on arrival as to any specific safety issues, you then ensure they are supervised at all times should be sufficient.
smith6720  
#3 Posted : 31 October 2012 09:17:26(UTC)
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smith6720

All down to age of youn persons, are they above MSLA? if so then no consent is required. (young persons risk assessment)You have pretty much completed the risk assessment in your head, note this down, when they arrive on site, take them to a safe area and complete and induction highlighting the potential risks/hazzards and areas of concern, put in place control measures, explain how visit will run and off you go.
Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 31 October 2012 09:26:54(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Having conducted similar visits in a mill environment one thing it would be worth raising with the college is footwear.

OK very unlikely they have safety boots but good stout flat shoes should be recommended - the number of times we had to find something suitable for students wearing sandals & high heels (and that was just the boys!) ;-)
Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 31 October 2012 09:26:54(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Having conducted similar visits in a mill environment one thing it would be worth raising with the college is footwear.

OK very unlikely they have safety boots but good stout flat shoes should be recommended - the number of times we had to find something suitable for students wearing sandals & high heels (and that was just the boys!) ;-)
pete48  
#6 Posted : 31 October 2012 10:26:46(UTC)
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pete48

Sir G.
These children are visitors. Start there with reference to your existing r.a. controls for visitors. Use that as the reference r.a. for the visit. Then identify any additional controls that are required because of their age. Normal culprits are: adequate supervision, any prohibited areas or activities, if p.p.e. is required to enter an area will the kit fit and properly protect the youngsters, if any doubt then a no-go area.
Control of 10-12 youngsters can be like trying to control a busload of monkeys so don't underestimate the need for adequate supervision, you can use college staff to help with the supervision.
Simply record your conclusions in a note form as part of the visit plan, share that with the college and then make sure the youngsters really enjoy their time with you. If you can give them something to do ( a simple quiz to fill in as they tour round for example) or something unusual to see then that always works well.
I agree that the matter of parental consent, if relevant, is for the college to sort but you can always ask them if you need re-assurance. I always check that they have obtained it before they are allowed on site.

p48
roshqse  
#7 Posted : 31 October 2012 12:42:28(UTC)
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roshqse

As a small point, having spent years dealing with kids and young people on visits like this, when you're actually walking around the site, make sure YOU are at the rear of the entourage, so as to round up stragglers, those with curious hands and mischief makers.

Trust me, you will need a sheep dog to control them!
SirGalahad  
#8 Posted : 31 October 2012 18:11:32(UTC)
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SirGalahad

Just to say thank you to all this was most helpful and I do like the quiz as I think this will make it a bit of fun as well, the age is 15 and it is a small group of 5 kids and two teachers myself and the MD once again thank you all for your help.

Regards

Sir G
rhoecus  
#9 Posted : 01 November 2012 06:25:56(UTC)
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rhoecus

Just a quickie sg. I used to work in a recyling plant so know just what a nightmare it can be with some of the workers.

When we did something similar (& you've probably thought of this) the workers were briefed about the visit. The workers kept an eye on what they were doing & visiting drivers were informed at the weighbridge & told to follow directions given by the banksman (the weighbridge & banksman had constant contact via two way radios - the people supervising the tour also had these radios).
As has been stated with the 'sheepdog' they'll try to wonder off, try to touch things they shouldnt, go where they shouldnt.
One useful hint is run through where you will be taking them (actually do the route), and where possible choose 'safe areas' for them to assemble to point out certain items & cordon these areas off so no plant, vehicles, etc are allowed nearby.
SirGalahad  
#10 Posted : 01 November 2012 06:48:54(UTC)
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SirGalahad

Hi rhosus you have hit the nail on the head! In all that you say and once I receive some idea what my MD wants to do and where he wants to go around the site I will start thinking about all the help and tips I have received. I am just awaiting the MDs PA letting me know the plan of action. However I am trying to sort out the quiz but from my point of view I does not just need to be about H&S but more about the company and the site.

regards and thanks to all
sir G
Graham Bullough  
#11 Posted : 01 November 2012 10:12:04(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Sir G

There’s little to add to the advice provided by earlier responders except to suggest that supervising 5 pupils aged about 15 shouldn’t be difficult. Also, as it seems that most teenagers have little or no awareness of the world of work bar except through what they see on TV and the internet, it’s good that the visit is to take place, irrespective of whether the school or your organisation first proposed it. With a modicum of appropriate preparation the visit should surely go well and be of benefit to the pupils, their teachers and your organisation’s people. Also, the information and experience regarding the forthcoming visit would of course be of use for any similar visits if planned in future.

If you are willing perhaps you could briefly let us know afterwards how the visit went and add any practical tips/advice gleaned from it. This could be of help to other forum users with workplaces which receive or could receive visits by outside groups whether they comprise pupils/students or even members of groups from within the IOSH Network.

p.s. I’m probably being old-fashioned in wishing that educational establishments for pupils up to minimum school leaving age (MSLA) would call themselves schools, academies or similar and desist from using the term ‘college’ which is surely more appropriate for establishments which provide higher/further education. Also, it seems a tad pretentious for schools, especially primary schools, to refer as some do in my experience to their pupils as ‘students’. :-(

p.p.s. It's interesting to observe from your forum name that IOSH has at least one knight of the realm amongst its membership!!!! :-)


SirGalahad  
#12 Posted : 01 November 2012 13:26:34(UTC)
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SirGalahad

Hi Graham and thank you for your reply I will share the experience with all and I hope that all will learn from it. This is the first 'young people' tour we have undertaken, however I hope it will not be the last the date has been set for the 6th of November 2012 so I will write back and update to all.

kind Regards

Sir G (Name of My Old Ship long time ago)
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