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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 07 November 2012 20:55:10(UTC)
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firesafety101

As far as CDM-Cs are concerned how much should they be involved and how?
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 08 November 2012 07:29:40(UTC)
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bob youel

CDMC's should be competent in all and any area of the particular contract that they are involved with at any one time re design and coordination. Alas in many many many cases they are not - but I must also note that there are some excellent CDMC's Many are cases are typical; 'you chose your CDMC and you get what you have chosen'. We should also note that between the designer, client and the PC there is a lot of interfacing and many many CDMC's are on the sidelines Sorry but I cannot be more helpful
firesafety101  
#3 Posted : 08 November 2012 10:36:51(UTC)
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firesafety101

Hi Bob, thanks for your input but that was not exactly what I wanted - apologies from me for not making myself clearer. All I wish to know is should the CDM-C get involved in this ACOP when writing up the PCI document? Do the PCIs need to be reminded of their responsibilities and if so how? On the other hand should the PC be expected to know his/her duties ?
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 08 November 2012 13:00:34(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Good Point. This is often not given the priority it should. The Client's multi-million pound is often very vulnerable to fire loss, and risk often increases as the Project progresses towards completion. It might be fair to say that CDM Regs have more of a focus on "people" issues as opposed to insured/uninsured losses? Should it be the CDM-C? It should be somebody in the Project Management Team, and I think it proper that the CDM-C air the issue at an early stage. I confess, I've never really looked at the insured loss aspects of construction Projects though.
firesafety101  
#5 Posted : 08 November 2012 13:16:09(UTC)
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firesafety101

Ron I think you are right. I am also sure the insurers would like to have the issue aired - as you say - at an early stage. Perhaps we could come up with a way to do just that, even if only a brief mention inside the PCI? What does anyone else think?
Ron Hunter  
#6 Posted : 08 November 2012 17:05:02(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Fire Risk should be a consideration for any building PCI. The PC should be responding with a response telling the Client how that risk will be managed across the Construction Phase. There should also be an expression and acceptance of any Client Rules (e.g. refurb project or project adjacent to occupied premises. The prompt already exists in the CDM ACoP - Appendix 2, section 2(a) (iv) but the context is too narrow. ("requirements relating to the health and safety of the client's employees or customers or those involved in the project....") All well and good, but the measures have to protect the structure too - particularly when unoccupied!
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