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moderator 5 wrote:Yes there is. Forum Rule 35. "35. If the moderators perceive that your message has broken our rules, they’ll remove it. Where possible, we’ll let you know that your message is unacceptable and why. If you have been formally warned in this way more than twice, on the third occasion, your access to the forums will be removed."
There is a significant difference between a formal warning and a friendly note from the mod team. We send far more of the latter than the former!
IOSH Moderating Team. Does this mean that there is a naughty-step somewhere on the forum? :~)
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Yes there is and if you fall off it - its notifiable!
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DP wrote:Yes there is and if you fall off it - its notifiable! Errr. I think you're jumping to conclusions on that - surely you need to start a thread to get the opinion of everyone else, only to then realise that it is a "grey area" in RIDDOR!
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Hey Baptiste, do you like the boxer twins by any chance? 650/750
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Good morning all
Good to see this thread attracted some debate and opinion before it degenerated.
I suppose I should really have had a final point 6 to my original list of observations:
6. People making totally inane comments, completely off subject
Moderators
You may as well lock this post now as I think judging by the responses #31 onwards it has reached its natural conclusion.
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It has never been the responsibility of any one person to say when a thread has reached it's natural conclusion.
Personally I was thinking how good it was that once more people on the forum were able to have a little bit of banter. Good for the soul.
Chill out. The world doesn't evolve around H&S or just serious issues. Conversations progress and take twists and turns. On this forum they will nearly always end up back where they started and if they don't then so what. That was their natural conclusion.
What the H&S world often lacks is the ability to relax and not take itself so seriously. So many people on here take themselves too seriously, becuase they consider it such a serious topic. Well in my expereince those in the most serious jobs usually have the best sense of humour. So I'll say it again relax. And if you can't well then don't try to stop other people from relaxing and having a bit of banter.
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Clairel makes very valid points at #46.
Also, bear in mind that some forum users don't constantly look at the forum. Therefore, if the thread were to be locked now and for no valid reason , some users might be deprived of the capacity to add valid, useful responses. This, in turn, would deprive the rest of us from reading such responses.
p.s. Apologies for omitting to include pedants and digressors (or should that be digressionists?) in my earlier response at #29! Remember that threads on this forum can be predictably unpredictable and, like conversations as mentioned by Clairel, inevitably take unexpected twists and turns. This surely helps to keep the forum interesting and worth reading whether for education, information, mental stimulation and/or amusement, etc.
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Yes, some people are helpful, some are funny, some can just be rude. However, most of the folks are just jobbing H&S people who try to help out. Yes, some threads go a bit off topic and Friday threads can be awesome and funny with excellent banter which is good because I think collectively we are seen as a bunch of boring, anally retentive old windbags going on and on about stuff "which is just common sense, right?"
I applaud Graham Bullough though - what a fantastic word is Iatrogenic - it even made it as far as my facebook page! So thank you Graham. :)
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I am who I am on this forum cos I don't want the boss to know, that I know, that he knows nothing.
Rich
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I think we broadly range between the concept of a ‘Forum’ (i.e. a meeting or assembly for the open discussion of subjects of public interest) and a ‘Discourse’ (i.e. verbal expression in speech or writing. However, being a classist before I was a practitioner, I feel that the true function of this messaging board is that of a ‘Symposium’. I think we’d all agree that this is a place for in which we hold a convivial meeting for discussion of a topic, especially one in which the participants form an audience and make presentations. In the truest sense of its Hellenic roots this would convey ironic, sarcasm, and drinking (although this is rather difficult to do virtually). I enjoying dipping into the IOSH forum because it provides these themes, but it is not an academic discussion forum, and we should delude ourselves to those standards being adopted here. It isn’t what the IOSH Discussion Forum are designed for. That it’s being derogatory about them, but rather raising them for not being that and allow us to been more blithe. Should you want an academic forum then I would suggest you visit http://www.academia.edu/ which is really very good for that sort of thing. I am this as a post-grad researcher. B CMIOSH FRSH FRGS
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Winter28827 wrote:Good morning all
I have recently started to take more time to read and contribute to some of the threads in the various IOSH forums in an honest, constructive and if possible a lighthearted way but am sometimes gob-smacked at some of responses I have read, that instead of offering practical down to earth advice:
1. Criticise the lack of knowledge of the poster, or; 2. Slate someone elses personal opinion, or; 3. Are totally unhelpful, or; 4. Quote/reference various bizarre H&S tomes/reports, or; 5. Any combination of the above.
As it's Friday: for what a really hard forum looks like, try the scaffolders forum.........
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Does all this mean that zimmy is loved by one and all?
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I like the word Oxometry. the measurement of.... :-) Naughty zimmy
I have passed exams in that!
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I think this is a very interesting original post and would agree with many for's and againsts.
I think it stimulates many interesting and beneficial discussions.
I was apprehensive about posting as I am still at a very early stage in my health and safety career, and therefore not so knowledgeable. I have got passed this initial fear(for want of a better word) and embraced it.
I can safely say that I learn something every time I am on the forum and in fact a lot of the posts spur me to investigate further.
Thank you all.
MAT
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Apologies for the typing errors but too lazy to correct.
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hilary - In response to your concluding comment at #48 I'm glad you liked the word iatrogenic (relating to an adverse injury or condition caused or exacerbated by a doctor or other health professional) which I included in a response to your recent "RIDDOR HELP" thread dated 6.11.12. However, I don't think I merit any compliment for simply knowing and sharing a word which others might find of interest or use.
However, after seeing the word again at #48, I wonder if there is any OS&H equivalent of iatrogenic as regards people or their workplaces, working conditions, etc., being made worse somehow by OS&H professionals! If so, is there any existing word/adjective for such circumstances or does one need to be devised?
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"OSHMOSIS": the attempt to filter common sense through a sometimes impermeable management system.
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Hopefully, as a result of what transpired at the Networks Conference, we may have some level of engagement from IOSH management to see how the users feel it can be improved.
To give the Moderation team their due credit, they have are trying to improve things but they seem to have been stymied.
I believe that IOSH Management got a wake up call (one, which one senior member of IOSH management, won't forget for a long time) when people got stuck in and raised issues concerning the level of interaction and the vehemence expressed by people from around the various international networks, in relation to this.
IOSH is here to serve both the members and the general public (as per our charitable aims), hence the public forums. So please, any constructive suggestions should be forwarded to any of the Moderators and if they are up for it, a specific topic to invite commentary.
Thanks to Moderator 2 for their support (and tenacity) in trying to improve things for us all along with the other mods.
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Clairel wrote: If people think this forum is rough they should try other forums.
Quite. Try an opposing view on a climate-change forum. Hung. Drawn. Quartered. Minced. Cremated. [burp]
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As there's probably no existing word for harm attributable to OSH professionals, "OSHMALISTIC" springs to mind as a possible new word.
To avoid any unwitting breach of forum rules I've done a quick internet search and found that 'oshmalistic' doesn't seem to be recognised anywhere on the internet. Therefore, it's unlikely either to be a dubious slang word or mean something rude in any language with the possible exception of ones which are too obscure to feature on the internet. Also, as the forum spell check facility didn't even notice and challenge 'oshmalistic', there were no suggested alternatives which might have included one or more amusing ones.
p.s. Most forum readers will know or guess that the 'mal' bit of the word is derived from the French word for bad which itself is derived from Latin. On this basis, does 'malingery' also mean bad underwear for men?! :-)
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Andrew Bober, I drink virtually every day, does that count?
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I too deem to be too weak for the testestinone on here - dont need the hastle!!
Clairel what other forums?? Happy to look and learn??
David H
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David H wrote:I too deem to be too weak for the testestinone on here - dont need the hastle!!
Clairel what other forums?? Happy to look and learn??
David H Take your pick. Most forums can be really nasty sometimes during arguments. Some are very cliquey. Others just allow members to express a sense of humour no matter how politically uncorrect. The absoulute worse one I was on for a while (I'm not going to mention which one for a very good reason) was just women and it was awful. Real school yard bullying. I don't think there's lots of testostrone on here at all.The main problem with this forum IMO is that everyone is exepected to be polite and professional all the time and this has led to tension, resentment and people being over sensitive. I still think an off topic forum would allow some of that tension to be released.
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clairel wrote: The absoulute worse one I was on for a while (I'm not going to mention which one for a very good reason) was just women and it was awful.
I'm glad one of the female members posted that. :-)
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I am mindful that this forum is one of the public areas of the professional body to which I belong. I, for one, am pleased that the forum has the following rules:
"2. You mustn’t antagonise other users or post any information that could be considered defamatory, obscene, abusive, offensive, inflammatory, unlawful or creates a risk to a person’s safety or health.
3. You mustn’t indulge in bullying, aggressive, discriminatory or nuisance behaviour. Please be respectful towards other guests, IOSH members, moderators and IOSH staff. Please remember, our forums are used by guests who might not have a background in occupational safety and health."
I don't want this forum to descend to the level of the comments sections of most online daily newspapers, where people who know no more than the sketchiest facts make sweeping judgements and totally offensive comments about others.
Let's try to keep this forum professional. We don't want people to be mauled and feel that they don't want to come back and ask a second question, do we?
Don't judge a questioner by the question they ask. I was once ORDERED to ask an idiot question on here. I knew it was an idiot question, and I knew the answer, but my boss didn't.
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The problem is Jane that many people on this forum have a very different idea of what is antagonistic, offensive, abusive, aggressive etc etc. What many of us would consider just to be a healthy argument others would consider to be abusive etc.
IMO this forum is very sanitised and unecessarily so. I'm not saying people should 'man up' but I also think people shouldn't be allowed to be overly sensitive either. There is a middle ground and I don't think this forum has found it.
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I have come back with this - PARAPROSDOKIANS. Here is the definition: "Figure of speech in which the latter part of a sentence or phrase is surprising or unexpected; frequently used in a humorous situation.
1. Do not argue with an idiot. They will will drag you down their level and beat you with experience
2. The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on my list.
3. Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
4. If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.
5. We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.
6. War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
7. Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
8. Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening" and the proceed to tell you why it isn't.
9. To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism. To steal from many is research.
10. A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a work station.
11. I thought a wanted a career. Turns out I just wanted pay cheques.
12. Whenever I fill out an application, in the part that says, "In case of emergency, notify: I put DOCTOR.
13. I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.
14. Women will never be equal to men until they can walk down the street with a bald head and a beer gut, and still think they are sexy.
15. Behind every successful man is his women. Behind the fall of a successful man is usually another women.
16. A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.
17. You do not a parachute to sky dive. You only need a parachute to sky dive twice.
18. Money can't buy happiness, but it sure makes misery easier to live with.
19. There's a fine line between cuddling and holding someone down so they can't get away.
20. I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
21. You're never too old to learn something stupid.
22. Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.
23. Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage make you a car.
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