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MikeD81  
#1 Posted : 14 November 2012 21:59:22(UTC)
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MikeD81

Hi All Posting here in the hopes of getting some direction relating to UK qualifications and also advice regarding finding work. I will be relocating from Australia to Scotland as my girlfriend has completed her studies and wants to return home for a while (a while being at least 18 months, quite probably longer). We will be living in Stirling/Clackmannanshire. I have spent the last 5 years working in healthcare, advising on manual tasks (both patient handling and manual handling - risk assessment & training), ergonomics and general OHS advice. I have a Bachelors degree in Exercise Science and Postgraduate Diploma in Occupational Health and Safety. IOSH have advised that I can most likely use the PGD to gain Graduate Membership. Work wise I would ideally be looking at part-time or consultant role where I would be working 3-4 days a week to give me an opportunity to do some travelling. So I was hoping I could get some guidance on the following questions: Is there an idustry qualification required/advised from providing training to workers in relation to HSE matters? Are there any short courses I should be looking at doing to orient myself to the UK legislation in addition to some late night reading (guessing best bet would be NEBOSH certificate or something along those lines)? Is there much call for HSE advisors/consultants in the Stirling/Clackmannanshire area? Whilst working in this area would be the preference, more than happy to work in Glasgow or Edinburgh. I'll apologise now if I am just rehashing old posts, I have had a look at past posts and couldn't really find anything specific (however, that could of been a total boy look). Thanks for any help. Michael
Safetrain  
#2 Posted : 15 November 2012 09:26:41(UTC)
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Safetrain

http://www.shp4jobs.co.uk/ Worth a look here Michael !
Betta Spenden  
#3 Posted : 17 November 2012 14:09:27(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Is there an idustry qualification required/advised from providing training to workers in relation to HSE matters? I recommend PTLLs as a starter for 10. Try contacting NEBOSH and the British Safety Council directly and ask whats required to deliver their courses. They both have web sites with "contact us" areas. RoSPA is an other option, but I have never worked with them. Are there any short courses I should be looking at doing to orient myself to the UK legislation in addition to some late night reading (guessing best bet would be NEBOSH certificate or something along those lines)? PM me your e-mail address. I will send you some bed-time reading. The legal framework is all fairly much the same as down under. Just the title of the main act and regs are different.
MikeD81  
#4 Posted : 18 November 2012 20:59:48(UTC)
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MikeD81

Thank you for the assistance so far everyone. Betta - PM sent. Thanks Michael
Clairel  
#5 Posted : 19 November 2012 15:51:04(UTC)
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Clairel

Think you may find jobs few and far between in the UK generally at the moment, even more so in Scotland. Wages (I believe) are also way below what you would expect in Australia. Part time positions may be harder to come by in a competitive market place at the moment. Try sending your details to the many consultancies over here. They may after a remote worker for Scotland. Not sure there is a best way to transfer knowledge. Horses for courses as they say over here. NEBOSH, IOSH, CIEH and you can't go wrong. What works for you. Not sure how it works in Australia but over here everything is ruled by guidance and best practice as the regulations can be a bit vague. On the plus side Scotland is beautiful. But bring your winter woolies!!!
soapygavin  
#6 Posted : 19 November 2012 16:55:22(UTC)
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soapygavin

If you are looking for jobs in Scotland the best websites are general jobs - www.s1jobs.com -for the NHS www.jobs.scot.nhs.uk/ and for local authority jobs try www.myjobscotland.gov.uk/ Stirling University hosts the Scottish School for Sports Excellence http://www.sports.stir.ac.uk/. Hope this helps.
9Yally  
#7 Posted : 20 November 2012 12:03:22(UTC)
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9Yally

Moving from Australia to Scotland ?! My advice is to ditch the girl
Melrose80086  
#8 Posted : 21 November 2012 10:26:57(UTC)
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Melrose80086

Hi Mike You want to come to Scotland...from Australia - are you mad?! You have seen the weather we get here right lol?! On a serious note...most of the well paid H&S jobs in Scotland tend to be up in Aberdeen / offshore in the oil industry - they pop up quite regularly on the sites already mentioned. Also, most jobs I've seen advertised recently have also been full time rather than part so I think you'll struggle to find something tbh. I currently work part-time but that's since returning from maternity leave [though basically do the same amount of work but in 3 days instead of the 5 now!]. Freelance work may be available but I would reckon most contracts would also want full time rather than part-time. There may be research positions available at some of the Universities [Strathclyde does the PG Cert and MSc in H&S risk management]. Funding for this may be more difficult to secure and preference may be given to those that have already studied there.. Good luck though!
MikeD81  
#9 Posted : 22 November 2012 01:01:31(UTC)
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MikeD81

Thanks for the suggestions everyone - they've given me plenty of things to consider. I have to admit that I won't really miss the Aussie weather. Between dodging the cricket ball sized hail on the weekend, sweltering in 35 degree heat over Christmas and risk of flooding the prospect of being snowed in is quite tempting.
imwaldra  
#10 Posted : 23 November 2012 12:23:26(UTC)
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imwaldra

May be worth contacting OHSAS in Rosyth (www.ohsas.org) - they are a commercial integrated OSH provider, but mainly for the NHS in Perth & Fife areas. At the least, somebody there will have a good understanding of how what you've been doing in Oz is managed in Scotland (Health is devolved here, so things can be a bit different from England or Wales).
watcher  
#11 Posted : 25 November 2012 20:08:55(UTC)
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watcher

Soapygavin has it about right. S1 jobs regularly throws up H & S jobs. I also agree about the PTLLS, which will be very valuable. Stirling area is actually ideal as it is pretty central, and there have been lots of jobs recently in LAs and even a couple in the prison service. One thing, though, although some people say Scotland is "beautiful", it is no different from anywhere else, and has it fair share of poverty, violence, grim housing estates, etc. Brigadoon, it aint
RiskyBusiness  
#12 Posted : 26 November 2012 11:33:28(UTC)
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RiskyBusiness

There seem to be quite a few H, S & E people coming from Australia to Scotland; I know of three in the last three months. When I asked "Why?" I was referred to this 'diary' of a Pom in Perth...made my day! - apologies about the lack of line spacing, the system seems to keep removing them - August 31st: Just got transferred with work into our new home in Perth!! Now this is a city that knows how to live!! Beautiful sunny days and warm balmy evenings. What a place! I watched the sunset from a deck chair on the veranda. It was beautiful. I've finally found my home. I love it here. September 13th: Really heating up. Got to 30 today. Not a problem. Live in an air-conditioned home, drive an air-conditioned car. What a pleasure to see the sun everyday like this. I'm turning into a sun worshiper. September 30th: Had the backyard landscaped with tropical plants today. Lots of palms and rocks. What a breeze to maintain. No more mowing lawn for me. Another scorcher today, but I love it here. October 10th: The temperature hasn't been below 30 all week. How do people get used to this kind of heat? At least today it's kind of windy though. But getting used to the heat is taking longer that I expected. October 15th: Fell asleep by the pool. Got 3rd degree burns over 60% of my body. Missed 3 days of work. What a dumb thing to do. I learned my lesson though. Got to respect the ol' sun in a climate like this. October 20th: I missed Kitty (our cat) sneaking into the car when I left this morning. By the time I got to the hot car for lunch, Kitty had died and swollen up to the size of a shopping bag and stank up the $3,000 leather upholstery. I told the kids that she ran away. The car now smells like Wiskettes and cat sh*t. I learned my lesson though. No more pets in this heat. October 25th: The wind sucks. It feels like a giant bl**dy blow dryer!! And it's hot as hell. The home air-conditioner is on the blink and the AC repairman charged $200 just to drive over and tell me he needed to order parts. October 30th: Been sleeping outside by the pool for 3 nights now. Bl**dy $450,000 house and we can't even go inside. Why did I ever come here? November 4th: It's 35 degrees. Finally got the ol' air-conditioner fixed today. It cost $500 and gets the temperature down to 25, but this bl**dy humidity makes the house feel like it's about 30. Stupid repairman. I hate this stupid place. November 8th: If another wise **** cracks, "Hot enough for you today?" I'm going to strangle him. Bl**dy heat! By the time I get to work the car's radiator was boiling over, my clothes are soaking wet, and I smell like baked cat!! November 9th: Tried to run some messages after work. Wore shorts, and sat on the black leather seats in the ol' car. I thought my rear was on fire. I lost 2 layers of flesh and all the hair on the back of my legs and my ****. Now my car smells like burnt hair, fried ****, and baked cat. November 10th: The weather report might as well be a bl**dy recording. Hot and sunny. Hot and sunny. Hot and sunny. It's been too hot to do anything for 2 damn months and the weatherman says it might really warm up next week. Doesn't it ever rain in this damn place? Water rationing will be next, so my $2,000 worth of palms just might dry up and blow into the bloody pool. Even the palms can't live in this heat. November 14th: Welcome to HELL!!! Temperature got to 40 today. Now the air-conditioner's gone in my car. The repairman came to fix it and said, "Hot enough for you today?" My wife had to spend the $2,500 house payment to bail me out of jail for assaulting the repairman. Bl**dy Perth. What kind of a sick demented idiot would want to live here? December 1st: WHAT????? Just heard on the T.V. that this is the FIRST DAY of SUMMER!!!!! They are kidding??
Clairel  
#13 Posted : 26 November 2012 12:01:19(UTC)
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Clairel

Some people will moan about anything!! Seriously. Australia isn't for me but for some people it is. Each to his or her own. I could write an equal list of why not to live in the UK in relation to the weather (and a myriad of other things too). Ask someone whose home has just been flooded AGAIN this year and they might think Australia has it's appeal!!
walker  
#14 Posted : 26 November 2012 13:15:41(UTC)
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walker

thanks risky very funny
MikeD81  
#15 Posted : 27 November 2012 09:17:33(UTC)
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MikeD81

Yep. That's pretty much the forecast for this week risky.
Moderator 2  
#16 Posted : 27 November 2012 10:14:23(UTC)
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Moderator 2

Sorry RiskBusiness, the site policy is to hide even asterisked 'language'. However, this piece is easily found on the web, for example here: http://www.pomsinperth.c...topic.php?f=9&t=4273 Moderator team PS: we did think it was funny!
rockybalboa  
#17 Posted : 28 November 2012 18:14:56(UTC)
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rockybalboa

Clairel wrote:
Think you may find jobs few and far between in the UK generally at the moment, even more so in Scotland. Wages (I believe) are also way below what you would expect in Australia. Part time positions may be harder to come by in a competitive market place at the moment. Try sending your details to the many consultancies over here. They may after a remote worker for Scotland. Not sure there is a best way to transfer knowledge. Horses for courses as they say over here. NEBOSH, IOSH, CIEH and you can't go wrong. What works for you. Not sure how it works in Australia but over here everything is ruled by guidance and best practice as the regulations can be a bit vague. On the plus side Scotland is beautiful. But bring your winter woolies!!!
Didnt know you knew the Scottish HSE job market so intimitely Clairel.
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