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Nev clifford  
#1 Posted : 23 November 2012 10:34:22(UTC)
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Nev clifford

Could anyone steer me in the correct direction for what is required ?
DP  
#2 Posted : 23 November 2012 11:44:03(UTC)
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DP

Nev - what is it your stacking?
Jake  
#3 Posted : 23 November 2012 11:46:42(UTC)
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Jake

DP wrote:
Nev - what is it your stacking?
The OP may be referring to a big industrial chimney? (I could be way out!) If so, not my area of knowledge..
DP  
#4 Posted : 23 November 2012 12:04:15(UTC)
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DP

Tell you what Jake being a northern lad going to be disappointed if I missed that one!!! Ha. We have one in our back yard!
Nev clifford  
#5 Posted : 23 November 2012 12:51:24(UTC)
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Nev clifford

Jake wrote:
DP wrote:
Nev - what is it your stacking?
The OP may be referring to a big industrial chimney? (I could be way out!) If so, not my area of knowledge..
but you are correct about what the question refers to
MEden380  
#6 Posted : 23 November 2012 13:30:14(UTC)
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MEden380

Nev Please except my apologies before you read any further (it is Friday) Have you asked "Gene Genie cus he loves Chimney stacks" (for all you younger people, a line from a David Bowie song) Serious note, how high, what's it made from and what do you burn?
boblewis  
#7 Posted : 24 November 2012 11:12:21(UTC)
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boblewis

Fred used to do a lot but they fell down afterwards!!!!!! His traction engine was always a joy however. Seriously though this is dependent on what the material of construction is. Brick built will focus on cracks, bulges and general brick and mortar degradation. Recent stacks should and must rely on the design parameters, an assessment of what has occurred within and to the external of the stack - it all depends on what the engineering designers recommend. Do be aware that there have been some fatalities even in recent years with stack inspections and related scaffold erection/dismantling. Bob
Betta Spenden  
#8 Posted : 25 November 2012 16:33:32(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Betta Spenden  
#9 Posted : 25 November 2012 16:35:07(UTC)
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Betta Spenden

Sorry. Meant to add. Its American but its still "SMOKIN".
Nev clifford  
#10 Posted : 27 November 2012 11:33:24(UTC)
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Nev clifford

boblewis wrote:
Fred used to do a lot but they fell down afterwards!!!!!! His traction engine was always a joy however. Seriously though this is dependent on what the material of construction is. Brick built will focus on cracks, bulges and general brick and mortar degradation. Recent stacks should and must rely on the design parameters, an assessment of what has occurred within and to the external of the stack - it all depends on what the engineering designers recommend. Do be aware that there have been some fatalities even in recent years with stack inspections and related scaffold erection/dismantling. Bob
Two stacks - one Brick built in the late 1800's when the site was built - this is no longer used for anything - its on the top of an old mill (sorry height guessing is not my strong point) The other is a metal stack which runs from the ground to approx 12m I have only just commenced this role, no inspections have been done on either stack since 2009. I am barraged by steeple jacks telling me that they must be done according to the law, but can find no referance anywhere as to which legislation / ACOP's states that they must be inspected annually or at any set frequency All help appreciated
teh_boy  
#11 Posted : 28 November 2012 09:20:10(UTC)
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teh_boy

ATLAS http://www.atlas.org.uk/...l_Chimney_Inspection.pdf I did a load of work on inspections for a flare stack following prohibitionist notice, PM if you need further help.
Graham Bullough  
#12 Posted : 28 November 2012 10:32:54(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Nev In complete contrast to your original post which was utterly vague, your posting at #10 with explanatory background is clear and should, hopefully, reap some useful responses. Also, you'll probably agree that using the word 'stack' instead of 'industrial chimney' in your thread title contributed to the ambiguity. Also, for anyone puzzled by boblewis's reference at #7 to 'Fred', he means Fred Dibnah (1938-2004), a steeplejack from Bolton in Lancashire who became well known through TV documentaries regarding his work and also his interests including his traction engine and numerous other facets of British engineering heritage. One of his final projects was the digging of a colliery-type shaft in his back garden. As digging progressed the shaft was lined with bricks using an old technique which had become obsolete. In view of its brick lining the shaft could be regarded as akin to an inverted industrial chimney!
Bruce Sutherland  
#13 Posted : 28 November 2012 21:05:03(UTC)
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Bruce Sutherland

Nev IMHO it was blindingly obvious what you were asking - a stack is a stack - you climb it - there are companies who do stack monitoring for emissions and I like knocking them down so suggest you ignore the criticism - sorry I don't know the answer - but as others have suggested be very careful about steeplejacks - never had any good experiences with them....... and when they fall they do bleed red blood
Graham Bullough  
#14 Posted : 29 November 2012 12:48:11(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Bruce To you and others who are familiar with the word stack as meaning an industrial chimney, Nev's use of the word certainly would have been obvious. However, those not familiar with this meaning may well have thought that he was referring to stacks of items, e.g. timber, in a storage yard. Also, was it an unfair comment or criticism on my part to suggest that Nev's opening post was utterly vague? I don't think so, especially as it led to a comment that his posting at #10 was clear. More forum users may be offended now if I add that quite a number of people who start threads on this forum are vague about what sort of information they seek and why. This helps neither them nor other forum users. Most of those who see a vague/ambiguously couched new thread will simply ignore it and a few may respond to ask what the thread is about. Also, while on this aspect, I hope I'm being constructively critical in commenting that it's also worthwhile for posters of new threads to think about the titles they use. For example, numerous threads simply entitled "RIDDOR" are started on this forum. It's possible that some of the forum users who usually skip such threads might be tempted to read them if their titles included brief indications of the scenarios involved. Nev - With or without steeplejacks pestering you for business, you've raised a topic with valid questions about inspection and maintenance aspects of stacks. Though it's likely that most forum users have little or no knowledge of steeplejacking (mine is largely based on seeing Fred Dibnah on TV using traditional techniques for work up chimneys and church steeples) they'll probably also agree that ascending and working on stacks comprise difficult, high risk activities because of the nature of the structures involved. p.s. Have just notice while proof-reading this response the unintentional and partial pun in describing steeplejacking as 'high risk'. :-)
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