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safetyman2010  
#1 Posted : 02 December 2012 19:55:02(UTC)
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safetyman2010

Hi all,

just wondering if anyone has an opinion on use of CCTV to alter behaviours within the workforce. We have recently installed significant new CCTV coverage throughout our manufacturing plant of which now provides considerable coverage which we did not previously have. Now we are able to review post incident events and see what actually happened and the build up to our numerous minor incidents. I'm reading some articles recently, i think about 'nudge theory' and i thought the cctv could also be used in this form. My thoughts are, if we communicate to the workforce that we will review CCTV regularly this could act as the 'police man' effect to ensure they behave safely and dont take shortcuts when not being directly supervised by management. We are only starting our approach to building a positive safety culture but at present we are firmly positioned in the dependant stage of the Bradford Curve and rely heavily on management enforcement. We also have not completed training for our management leadership team yet so i need something to help push a compliance culture until we have progressed sufficently within our culture. Does anyone know of any issues with communicating the fact that CCTV is in place to workforce?

Thanks
ExDeeps  
#2 Posted : 02 December 2012 20:34:59(UTC)
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ExDeeps

Safety man,
I can't remember the exact regulations but you must be careful that CCTV used in this way is properly notified to the relevant authorities as well as the workforce through consultation prior to using it as described. Why were the cameras fitted? Are you a unionised site?

For me using the CCTV to modify your position on the Bradley curve will have the effect of reinforcing your current culture and I would avoid it if possible - too much like Big Brother and 1984 for me

Jim
johnmurray  
#3 Posted : 02 December 2012 22:47:23(UTC)
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johnmurray

Hopefully you have registered the installation.
And put adequate signage that it is installed.
And that you have notified the workforce that they can, on receipt of the relevant payment (not more than 10 quid) have receipt of the "data" (video) on themselves.
And then you have to decide on the length of time you intend to store the data.....legally you can only keep them " for as long as necessary to meet the purpose of recording them"
And then there is the issue of who has access to the data......in your case it seems every Thomas, Richard and Harriet......
You need a serious discussion of exactly what it is for.....and then legal advice as to whether you can use it for that !
Jake  
#4 Posted : 03 December 2012 08:21:08(UTC)
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Jake

As others have alluded to there are significant Data Protection (DP) issues with what you describe that should be controlled by a comprehensive Data Protection Policy.

I say this not as an expert in DP (quite the opposite and thankful of it!) but the organisation I work for have in the distant past had issues due to a lack of policy and the system being used for the wrong reasons.

As I understand you have to have a reason to review footage and this has to be based on evidence or suspicion. You are not allowed to simply sit and watch CCTV to try and find something, reasonable grounds for suspicion need to be in place first.

Our system can only be access by designated persons who have signed up to the DP code of conduct. Our data is written over within about a month so we don't have the issue of retention periods, but I'd say 3 years would be suitable (for use in a civil claim defence).

Anyone can have footage of themselves burned onto a disc for £10 (but never gets requested).

With the above in place we use CCTV heavily in accident investigations and it's an invaluable tool! But we would never proactively scan CCTV for unreported incidents etc. etc.
potts2030  
#5 Posted : 03 December 2012 09:41:25(UTC)
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potts2030

We had a programme where the monitoring team would call the site if they saw a breach of safety such as people not wearing Hi vis or doing something they should not be doing. The site would then send a manager to discuss the breach with the person. It worked quite well and wasnt big brother as we did not get that much reported.
John J  
#6 Posted : 03 December 2012 10:10:13(UTC)
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John J

Potts2030 wrote:
We had a programme where the monitoring team would call the site if they saw a breach of safety such as people not wearing Hi vis or doing something they should not be doing. The site would then send a manager to discuss the breach with the person. It worked quite well and wasnt big brother as we did not get that much reported.


Sorry, but using it to that extent is the very definition of 'Big Brother'
KieranD  
#7 Posted : 03 December 2012 10:26:31(UTC)
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KieranD

Safetyman

Firstly, congratulatons on recognising the vital importance of feedback within the upgrading of safety culture.

Secondly, it would be a shame if misjudgments and/or confusion abou technology as an aid to feedback were to aid your effort to upgrade your culture. There's no need to allow it to get bogged down in Data Protection or other important legal safeguards to employees.

Thirdly, one of the reasons that safety culture so often gets bogged down is the divorce of 'safety culture' from the broader culture of the organsation; Dominic Cooper's 1998 book is one of the very, very few that link safety culture with the larger system of organisational culture. In this context, I read your statement: ' we are firmly positioned in the dependant stage of the Bradford Curve and rely heavily on management enforcement. We also have not completed training for our management leadership team yet so i need something to help push a compliance culture" and suspect that setting such a very low ceiling may become a recipe for painful and possibly failure.

Fourthly, you have a far greater prospect of succeeding if you ensure management leadership development is dovetailed with initiatives towards an 'organisational efficacy' (OE) culture, of which safety culture is an integral component. You can download the 17-statement tool for diagnosing the level of 'organisational efficacy' culture at present in your organisation, along with the six-point rating scale in the article by its author, James Bohn, in HRDQuarterly, Autum (Fall) 2010; then you can work on one or more of the three dimensions of OE culture most critical at this stage of your organsiational renewal, and include feedback about each of the two classes of non-compliance (errors and violations) legally and constructively as components of change.

Fifthly, introducing the OE perspective competently kicks any possible shadow of 'Big Brother' properly out of sight, out of mind and out of any possible entry to your setup.
Invictus  
#8 Posted : 03 December 2012 10:49:24(UTC)
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Invictus

We utilise CCTV footage for training purposes with the persons permission. We also use it to defend against claims or it is asked for to assist a claimants claim against us. If it can be used in this way then surely it can be used to assist in identifying breaches of safety and taking action to prevent re-occurrences and modify behaviours.
KieranD  
#9 Posted : 03 December 2012 11:09:01(UTC)
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KieranD

One possible way of using technology appropriately as part of a coherent and legitimate way of gathering feedback on levels of safe/unsafe behavour is to design, conduct and evaluate a scientific experiment about its use.

Get two matching groups doing comparable jobs, so that the experimental variable lies in the use of CCTV and use of a team of two or more scientificaly-trained observers for the same timeperiods. The dependent variable consists of both the amount and quality of production and the number and gravity of safety errors and violations.

Feedback includes not only the quantitative data but also the qualitative data consisting of the learning of the operatives, of their team leaders, of the observers, of relevant managers and of the safety professonal overseeing it all.

Data tell their own story, much more validly than dogma. It's not impossible that operatives monitored by CCTV may be those most enthusiastic about its positive benefits.

In effect, the experiment can be used as part of the development of constructive, cost-beneficial safety culture, as well as a means of determining the pros and cons of using CCTV.
johnmurray  
#10 Posted : 03 December 2012 13:06:53(UTC)
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johnmurray

Just as long as the installation is properly registered and signed.
And the data is properly and legally used and stored.
And the people whose data is stored are aware of their ability to "view" said data, sufficiently redacted so that they are unaware that you are also selling any appropriate bits to anyone that will pay for it !
Oh, and also make sure that Thomas, Richard and Harriet have no access unless authorised.
These are legally required safeguards........
Next time you are trying clothes on in the store....look UP and wave.
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