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Hi all,
Im looking for some advice and direction.
I have an employee who has been off work following an operation on his hand to repair tendon damage (not a result workplace injury). He has been advised by his surgeon to request anti-vibration gloves on his return to work. The employee does use air tools but not to any significant level.
I am of the understanding that these gloves do little to protect user from vibration risks, and in some cases do more harm than good. The HSE hint at this on their site:-
http://www.hse.gov.uk/vi...ication/warmclothing.htm
Can someone direct to any hard evidence/facts other than the above link?
Thanks
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Hi ,
here is an extract from L140- it is the ACoP : "The control of vibration at work regulation 2005".
"184 Gloves marketed as 'anti-vibration', which aim to isolate the wearer's hands
from the effects of vibration, are available commercially. There are several
different types, but many are only suitable for certain tasks, they are not
particularly effective at reducing the frequency-weighted vibration associated with
risk of HAVS and they can increase the vibration at some frequencies. It is not
usually possible to assess the vibration reduction provided in use by anti-vibration
gloves, so you should not generally rely on them to provide protection from
vibration (more information is in Part 6). However, gloves and other warm
clothing can be useful to protect vibration-exposed workers from cold, helping to
maintain circulation."
Hope this helps.
PH2
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Two problems for you:
1. When wearing Anti Vibration Gloves the loss of dexterity often leads to users holding the tool tighter. This increases the harm realised.
2. Anti Vibration Gloves give protection at high vibration levels (above 20Hz etc). Most of the damage is however sometimes caused by low frequency levels between about 5-18Hz. An area where Anti-vibration gloves do not always offer protection.
My concern would be: Is the employees Doctor worried about the high frequency vibration (20Hz+) undoing or having a serious and direct negative impact on the stitching or operation. Or is S/he worried about the accumulative effect of exposure to low frequency vibration leading to HAVs (5-18Hz), especially after the operation?
Crack on.
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the above post is correct, also remember PPE last resort, the first question I would be asking is the employee fully fit/ready to return to work?? or allocate other duties until he is fully fit and ready to resume his normal daily work tasks under controlled conditions
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Echo above comments.
Is he fit for tasks or is the doctor just making recommendations based upon his normal work and not really understanding the issue?
Has he just heard that these things exist without really knowing what they are and are not good for?
We don't issue these gloves as some people have tried them and no one says they are any use.
I recommend everyone to wear thermal gloves in cold weather and keep hands warm. This seems to be the more accepted method of protecting from HAVS.
And take frequent breaks obviously.
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Doubt the surgeon has a clue what he's talking about. Probably a great surgeon but that doesn't mean he knows everything about everything.
What do you need hard evidence for? Why is the HSE's stance on the subject not good enough for you?
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I'm with Clare on this. In these days of evidence-based medicine, I'm surprised the surgeon is recommending something without reviewing the available evidence,
John
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Heavy involvement in VWF at a previous employer, including civil claims. I echo what others have said about the use of these gloves & can still remember receiving a 100 page report from one manufacturer trying to sell me their gloves.
I never got past the first page which contained a disclaimer stating that they might actually exacerbate the problem!
Warm & dexterous gloves; properly maintained kit & job rotation are the mainstay of any HAV's issues.
Zyggy
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Hi all,
I managed to find an HSE study into these types of gloves, and although it wasnt entirely conclusive it did suggest the gloves do not provide any substantive benefit.
I have since talked to the employ - the initial response/query came from HR. The employee thought they would be a good idea, with no recommendations being made.
Thanks to everyone for their comments.
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