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I have been doing some research recently on these rates and am interested in why most companies report per 100,000 hours worked whereas the HSE statistics are based on per 100,000 workers.
I would have thought employers would want to compare their rates directly with HSE published ones to demonstrate how good their performance is.
Can anyone enlighten me please?
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Hi Lucy
I have worked for a number of (construction based) companies who only ever worked on per 100000 employees. I am aware however that some companies, especially those with 24hr working / shift working prefer to measure it in 100000hours to give a better reflection of the AIR's.
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Although depressing, the closest 'big number' of hours an adult will work in their life is 100,000 (age 18-65 @ 40hrs per week).
The first phase of any AFR programme is to get this number below 1.
You can statistically then say that during a lifetime of working at company x you will not have a reportable accident.
(you may have a figure like 0.57 but obviously you can't have 1/2 an accident).
Volume of numbers for the HSE numbers Lucy - Your organisation would hardly notch a ripple on a 100,000 workers graph I imagine?
There is no hard and fast however as many over the pond use a million hours and also I've seen 200,000 in a matrix organisation recently.....don't ask.....
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Historically UK in-company data was reported per 100,000 hours (40/week x 50 weeks x 50 years = 1 working lifetime, in days when holidays were typically 2 weeks per year!). In contrast US data is typically per 200,000 hours (= 100 people for a year).
Many years ago HSE realised that the actual number of hours isn't particularly relevant, especially since formal clocking on/off is now rare. So they decided to report data per 100,000 people instead - why they chose that huge number I've no idea - it means that the resulting rates are in the hundreds to thousands.
IOSH agrees with HSE that counting hours doesn't add much value, especially if they actually aren't counted, but assumpions are made - which is what happens in very many organisations! However we think that an annual rate per 100 people is something that most line managers, etc. can visualise. That's what we recommend in our guide about OSH results reporting. And for organisations that insist on reporting per 100,000 hours a conversion is pretty simple.
A key point is who uses the figures. If they are meant to enlighten line managers, then your organisation should use something they can understand. In the days when organisations were larger and all the workers most at risk were paid by the hour, then no doubt most managers knew how many hours their part of the organisdations clocked up in a year. But those days are long gone - so why do OSH people continue to use such an outdated measurement system?
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I've just started reporting AFRs per 100k hours.
I went round the houses before deciding on this metric. I ended up choosing hours worked as a useful measure for us since we've widely varying seasonal overtime (and very accurate figures for it), and not every part of the business follows the same pattern - some have no overtime. Calculating per 100k hours means it's representative of the actual amount of work going on.
I can see why macro-level statistics (like the HSE's for entire sectors) uses headcount though.
All these benchmarks are new to our management, so we're finding our feet here.
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Thanks for the feedback.
When I did a search on the web the only data I could find was per 100,000 hours worked - this included Costain, Network Rail, British Land, Laing O’Rourke, Carillion.
Having just gone through this exercise and discovered how difficult (and I think innaccurate) it is to calculate working hours I am amazed organisations still go down this route, although I can understand the comment made about seasonal working.
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