Hi, on the grounds that my wife is required to "take home" medical equipment that she needs for her Monday morning clinic, and that it is her own (private) car, if she injured herself moving the equipment, I would be encouraging her to report it as an injury connected with work, and therefore if she was "off work" as a result of this for over 7 days, I'd consider it reportable,,,,,,,,but thats just my opinion! Holmezy

Not in my opinion. Not on the premises so not your problem. Think about your laptop bag - if you did yourself a wrong turn carrying that to your car, about to set off for work. You are not 'at work', you have not 'clocked in' you have not got to 'work'. Anyone tried to pull that stunt across me I'd laugh them out of the office. Just my opinion (and fact of what I'd do) if anyone else wants to make the tenuous link and fund the holiday in Barbados - good luck - its not the spirit of RIDDOR. Recognise things like this and your open to a world of poo

I would like to know more about why she removed the items from the boot, if it's procedure or expected, security etc report. If she was making space for shopping maybe not.

Same questions as Tim2232, is it part of their job that they have to take this item home with them, and are they expected to remove it from the car for security reasons and / or not to invite thieves etc. Even if they are removing so they can go shopping in their own personal car, if they are expected to take it home then you have to expect it to be removed. Was it taken home because they were to lazy to take it back to work. However, what size/ weight is this bag, similar to a 8 year old child or a hand held first aid kit. Ie is this item no worse than say a bag of shopping (so no different to everyday out of work activity). I don't think we have enough information to decide, but I think it could be classed as work related, dependant on the above answers.

*hidden @ #4 - now cleaner Not in my opinion. Not on the premises so not your problem. Think about your laptop bag - if you did yourself a wrong turn carrying that to your car, about to set off for work. You are not 'at work', you have not 'clocked in' you have not got to 'work'. Anyone tried to pull that stunt across me I'd laugh them out of the office. Just my opinion (and fact of what I'd do) if anyone else wants to make the tenuous link and fund the holiday in Barbados - good luck - its not the spirit of RIDDOR. Start recognising things like this and your open to a world of trouble

thank you all for your responses - the person is required to take their medical bag home as they work in the community, therefore, are required to take it home. The bag does not need to be removed from the car for security purposes - however on this occasion was moved to make way for personal shopping. my thought keeps returning to was it the bag that caused the injury or the shopping bags - how do we prove it wasnt? think i may err on the side of caution and report.

Sorry, but that's a misconception of RIDDOR. The relevant test is 'arising out of work', and that's the 'spirit of RIDDOR'; whate are employers doing (or failing to do) which is causing injury and ill-health? This test has nothing to do with work premises. Other posters are right to question why the IP was bringing the bag home, if she is required to do so because of work, then RIDDOR may well apply, John

Sorry damelcfc but I agree with jwk on this one. there are many people out their who do not have a fixed work location (me for 1) so its the work activity not where it occurred that is important for RIDDOR but I also agree we do not have enough information to know if this was a work activity. As others have said why 2was the person taking the bag home? Were they required to do this as part of their job or was it simply something they decided to do.

It really isn't about workplaces; it is about incidents arising out of work. I agree that there is a debate about whether or not this was a work activity, and that has everything to do with why she had the bag in the back of her car. If she was taking it home to make her life easier, then it's probably not arising out of work and therefore not reportable. If she has to take the bag home to start her work the next day (or in this case on Monday morning) then she's in just the same position as a delivery driver getting something out of the van, and yes, in that case the Manual Handling Operations Regulations would apply. The RTA only applies to injuries caused by driving; other injuries arising out of work on the public roads do fall under the scope of RIDDOR, John