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Invictus  
#1 Posted : 07 January 2013 08:35:11(UTC)
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Invictus

Just a quick question. When or if you carryout a Fire R/A, 1. do you set the time scale for the actions and 2, do you return to review that recommendations have been completed or do you leave that to the company to decide timescale and responsiblity for review.
firesafety101  
#2 Posted : 07 January 2013 09:05:03(UTC)
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firesafety101

I give a time scale i.e. Urgent do it now, the rest depend upon urgency, could be a few weeks to a few months.

If change of policy is required then that will not be done right away, it takes time but something like new extinguishers or alarm testing can be fairly quick to sort.

I only go back if invited, so leave the recommendations to the responsible person.
Heather Collins  
#3 Posted : 07 January 2013 10:46:52(UTC)
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Heather Collins

I set a priority for action - L/M/H and leave the actual target date setting to the client. I do provide them with an action plan for them to complete with owner/target date/ % complete/ date complete.

I also only return to review if invited, though I might contact them after a suitable interval and ask how they are getting on
David Bannister  
#4 Posted : 07 January 2013 11:45:58(UTC)
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David Bannister

It depends on what the client wants (and what they are prepared to pay for) and what internal resources they have to fix any identified issues. The scope of work would ideally be determined prior to engagement.

Like Heather, I will always advise on priority.

I have in the past been requested to project manage alarm & e-lighting installation but this is rare and was a separate contract.
JohnW  
#5 Posted : 07 January 2013 19:06:58(UTC)
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JohnW

As a consultant I am not an employee of the companies for which I do FRAs, so I don't give them 'deadlines', I ask THEM to provide their timeline-action plan, and will comment if appropriate.

Like others have said, I only return when requested, but I usually contact them 1 year later if I put that down as the review date.

To be honest I wash my hands of companies who don't rectify serious non-compliances in a timely manner e.g. I think I posted on here a couple of years ago about a truck transport site who rent out a warehouse, and adjoining two units and adjoining offices to several other employers - their fire-alarm system was faulty and had been switched off when I did the FRA. In the FRA I said in the absence of a sprinkler system the alarm system was the only way to effectively alert all the employers/employees on the complex site.

The adjoining units were a joinery business with electric saws with LEV but lots of sawdust, and there was also a motor/truck repair unit with welding and flammables.

A month later no action so I walked away leaving them with a hard copy FRA stating my concerns.

A year later I called the transport supervisor - fire alarm system was still not operating.

JohnW
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