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I spent 6 years serving with Gurkhas.
Everytime we went on tour abroad it was always fresh meat that had been slaughtered that day went in the Pot, that way you knew what it was and nothing went to waste.
Clive.
PS - No animals were ever left to suffer a slow death as in a lot of slaughter houses either it was always instant
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If it's showing horse DNA, it may be due to the cattle feed. They often use the carcass of dead animals to make feed for other animals. Some chicken feed for example could contain the processed carcass of cattle,horse and sheep, including the snout, eyes, eye lashes, lips, bones, cartilage etc etc. If you add the growth hormones, antibiotics and other nasties they give animals, it all adds up to...YUK!
I have the urge to become a raw vegan! a meat eating raw vegan :)
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pgahegan - Thanks for starting a topic which has made an interesting change from some of the usual ones on this forum. This is reflected by its tally of 630+ viewings and some 40 responses within 9 hours. At the outset I guess that neither you nor other forum users anticipated how this thread regarding a topic peripheral to OS&H would develop, if at all, on this predictably unpredictable forum.
Also, thanks to those who've provided the amusing responses. They show that some forum users/OS&H professionals clearly have a sense of humour even though perhaps not to everybody's, er, tastes. Some responses have been especially amusing and thus brightened up what has been a fairly boring day for some of us.
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I've just checked the date on the burgers I have in the fridge... Aand their off...
I thank you.
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"It just goes to show that you get what you pay for. I'm surprised the "Value" burgers have that much meat in them to start with..."
Meat is such an emotive word....beef fat counts as "beef", except in "beef steak"
So while a burger may have 50% beef, it is by no means sure you are getting muscle beef !
Since I used to be a butcher, for a once-well-known chain of shops, I can happily inform you that all that went into beef mince, as in burger mince, was beef....hearts, lights, kidney, fat and muscle.
That's what they're going-on about....the problems of the contents not meeting the labeling.
If you think that succulent steaks are happily ground-up to make burgers.....well...only if they are stated as "minced beef steak".
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Katrina_bee wrote:It just goes to show that you get what you pay for. I'm surprised the "Value" burgers have that much meat in them to start with...
Although i'm a tiny bit glad that this news may put the wider public off buying cheap meat from supermarkets that have obviously fallen at the last hurdle when it comes to tracability.
Want to know what your eating and where its from? - Go Local and Buy British!
No need to worry about that - the UK exports a substantial amount of horse flesh to Europe. It's the most effective way to dispose of unwanted and worn out old nags.
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Trichinosis is a not unknown consequence of horse flesh consumption in Europe now, having increased in frequency in recent years.
A seriously nasty disease, there are not many cases each year, but you definitely don't want to volunteer to be the next one
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Gary Clarkson wrote:I've just checked the date on the burgers I have in the fridge... Aand their off...
I thank you.
Wicked! :-)
Although maybe - they're!
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I ate some Horse Burgers yesterday and i have to report a medical condition....
They have given me the trots.
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I ordered a burger in the Tesco cafe today, the waitress asked me if I wanted anything on it - I put a fiver on each way (here all week)
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Why, I almost reared up at this story. Neigh I thought, it cannot be so. My stomach withers at the thought of it. Would I get croup? Then I reined myself in.
After all it is a very common food in many parts of the world. One A.P. report was quoted “In France, where some butcher's shops specialize in horse steaks best served tartare, the Irish probe merited only a Gallic shrug”.
The British have acquired an aversion to eating horse meat only within the last two or three generations. That’s really strange in a way because they happily devour vast quantities of beef, pork and lamb. All animals specifically reared to be eaten.
No doubt many will jockey for position on this issue and others will whip it into shape but let’s hope that the stewards enquiry finds in favour of horse sense. Leaves stage left with a deft touch of the forlock;-)
p48
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For some background information about the topic see the Daily Telegraph web article at http://www.telegraph.co....n-Britain-for-years.html It states that the matter came to light because the Foods Standards Authority of Ireland (FSAI) tipped off the UK's Food Standards Agency (FSA) about the results of tests it had been conducting during recent months.
The article's headline is "Beef contaminated with horse meat may have been sold in Britain for 'years'. IF the horse meat involved was fit for human consumption, it seems that the journalists' use of the word "contaminated" in the headline was incorrect and perhaps intended to stir undue emotion. As with internet news articles generally it's interesting to have a quick glance through some of the comments below the article to get an impression about the range of responses to it. They also include some amusing ones though perhaps not as witty/funny as some of the responses to this thread!
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Went into a Restaurant yesterday that was still selling tesco burgers.
The waiter asked me if I wanted a starter? I replied No thanks Ill just have the Mane course!
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Not sure if it's tesco burgers or my Lidl pony...
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"That's what they're going-on about....the problems of the contents not meeting the labeling." - hit the nail on the head there, what i was getting at is if i chose to eat duck, i want to be eating duck - not duck/chicken/pigeon.
"Meat is such an emotive word...." and when i think of meat - i don't mean just an 8oz fillet but everything else that can also be eaten from the animal. (trotters, shin, cheek,offel etc). i'm quite sure some people will think that their processed meat contains only the best cuts...i think education is needed in that area.
BBC quote this morning: "Horses helped out in warfare. There have been huge sacrifices alongside riders in historic battles. And there are sentimental depictions like War Horse" - thats true but horses also provided a meal for the soldiers during the war and the majority of british horses that were shot at the end were sold for meat to the french...
This news just goes to show that my dad wasn't joking when he used to shout "GET THAT HORSE OUT THE WAY OR HE'S GOING ON HOLIDAY TO THE BURGER FACTORY!!!!"
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"No need to worry about that - the UK exports a substantial amount of horse flesh to Europe. It's the most effective way to dispose of unwanted and worn out old nags."
I wonder what the majority of people think happens to the retired/unprofitable/failed racehorses in the UK? I imagine something along the lines of a "Happy Horsey Retirement Farm" of the Isle of Skye???
The local racing yard gives them away when they're done with them - and if they can't give them away for free? off to the glue factory...
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A supermarket spokesperson has reported that their graphic design department have just finished sorting out the new wording for the box and it will be down to a photo finish at the end.
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Will the win be by a short horn or a short head?
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Just been told veggie burgers are being investigated, apparently they have Uniquorn in them.
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Despite the news, a Tesco spokesman said this morning that burger sales remain stable.
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Wonder if an RA was done for this potential event:-)
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And I just daren't mention the Primark leggings joke on the back of this, or the mods will get the 'hump'.
Work it out for yourselves!
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Just driven past our local Tesco at lunchtime and note Goods In has been changed to De - Liveries
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If you think the horsemeat burgers are bad, you should try their quarter pandas.
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My Doctor told me I should watch what I eat.
I have just booked tickets for the Grand National.
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Think I'll skip the hot dogs too!
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Tesco burgers are low in fat, but surprisingly high in Shergar.
I can’t take credit it was from the internet, but thought I would share before the moderators rein us in.
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At least one British newspaper website today reports that Irish MPs plan "to grill" representatives from the Irish FSAI and Agriculture Dept next week about the equine beefburger scandal. An interesting prospect and one which at least shows how difficult it is sometimes to avoid food-related analogies or puns.
Out of curiosity, what will the supermarkets and suppliers do with all the beefburgers which have just been withdrawn from sale? Pet owners might be upset by the possibility that enterprising petfood producers might take the beefburgers. If so, have such owners thought about what is used to produce petfood?!!!
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I wouldn't even want to open that can of worms Graham...
Dogs eat pretty much anything and everything so a bit of mystery meat isn't going to put them off their suppers i shouldn't think...
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I saw my local Tesco getting a fresh delivery of Burgers today, it was about 10 to 1.
Personally, eating a couple have done me some good, I ran the four miles to work in under seven minutes this morning, clearing 12 hedges on the way.
Keep smiling.
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I have just read these post to the wife. She now thinks that not only are we mad to do the job we do but she now has it in writing. :-)
Nice one chaps and chapesses Made my week. Rob
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clivelowery wrote:
PS - No animals were ever left to suffer a slow death as in a lot of slaughter houses either it was always instant
Just to dispel that little myth. In this country animals are not left to suffer a slow death in slaughterhouses.
I have eaten horsemeat once in France but I am British and therefore afflicted by an arbitrary sense of what animals I can eat and what animals I can't, so I shan't be doing it again.
Personally I only buy meat from my local butcher and will eat vegetarian if I'm not sure about the source of meat in restaurants.
Like Graham I was put off processed food by working as an inspector.
.....carry on with the jokes now lads and lasses. One of great British strengths is the ability to make jokes about just about anything!!
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My mate had a flat next to a slaughter house, nice place but the view was offal
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DP wrote:My mate had a flat next to a slaughter house, nice place but the view was offal
That is getting robbed...
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Invictus's allusion to canine testicles at #75 reminds me of a veterinary friend who spent the earlier part of his career working with farm animals. While castrating young bulls he said it was common for some farmers, especially the older ones, to ask him for the newly detached testes because they were considered delicious when sliced and fried. Unlike the buyers of beefburgers containing horsemeat, the farmers involved knew exactly what they were getting and that the items were fresh, just as Ghurka soldiers on tour knew about their meat supplies as described by cliverlowery at #41.
I think my friend said he invariably declined invitations from the farmers to stay and taste the fried delicacies. On a serious note, can any forum users with farming, veterinary or medical connections, etc., comment if this culinary choice persists, especially with regard to Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE, commonly known as "mad cow disease") and new variant Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease (nvCJD)?
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In the opening of my posting above regarding my veterinary friend's experiences I referred to a preceding posting which was numbered #75. However, it transpires that the preceding posting disappeared while I was composing my own posting, presumably because it breached forum rules through containing a partly disguised word considered as offensive/inappropriate.
In the past the contents of inappropriate postings were removed and replaced by a standard phrase "The contents of this message cannot be displayed at this time" or similar. Though moderatorial monitoring of postings is necessary, surely it's better in most cases to use the standard phrase than totally remove errant postings. The phrase serves to advise forum users that a posting has been hidden and, more importantly, to remind them that the forum is moderated.
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#64, This was the first past the post :-P) made me laugh out loud, just what we need this time of year
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safetygirl's witty quip at #50 was echoed by David Dimbleby while chairing "Question Time" on BBC TV last night. This might indicate that he and perhaps other well-known media people deign to visit this forum! :-)
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I heard that Tesco's Finest range is being re-branded to Tesco's Thoroughbred - LOL!
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Graham Bullough wrote:Invictus's allusion to canine testicles at #75 reminds me of a veterinary friend who spent the earlier part of his career working with farm animals. While castrating young bulls he said it was common for some farmers, especially the older ones, to ask him for the newly detached testes because they were considered delicious when sliced and fried. Unlike the buyers of beefburgers containing horsemeat, the farmers involved knew exactly what they were getting and that the items were fresh, just as Ghurka soldiers on tour knew about their meat supplies as described by cliverlowery at #41.
I think my friend said he invariably declined invitations from the farmers to stay and taste the fried delicacies. On a serious note, can any forum users with farming, veterinary or medical connections, etc., comment if this culinary choice persists, especially with regard to Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE, commonly known as "mad cow disease") and new variant Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease (nvCJD)?
heralding from a stockman's family I can remember dad coming home a few times with 'sweetbreads'. Although they sounded nice when I was told what they were the fussy youngster in me declined to partake, even when I was told they were ofally good (it may also explain some of the family traits as well). :)
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