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Sharon Wooller  
#1 Posted : 29 January 2013 15:32:28(UTC)
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Sharon Wooller

Does anyone have any idea of much £ reduction might be expected in insurance premiums on successful completion of OHSAS18001 - putting together a business case and could do with some supporting information
freelance safety  
#2 Posted : 29 January 2013 16:14:22(UTC)
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freelance safety

Lots of factors are involved here. Feel free to PM me, but I would suggest you speak to your insurance company or their loss adjusters (or brokers if you use one).

Regards

FS
rodgerker  
#3 Posted : 29 January 2013 16:44:24(UTC)
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rodgerker

Without wishing to be too cynical might I suggest that in round figures it will probably be zero.

Rodger Ker
Dr Sanyi Gabe  
#4 Posted : 30 January 2013 06:42:17(UTC)
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Dr Sanyi Gabe

I agree with FS that lots of factors are involved here. Assuming you have established and obtained certification for OHSAS 18001: 2008 the Insurance company will still have to undertake their own risk inspection and assessment of your operations following their established criteria to enable them fix the appropriate premium level.
Hope this helps

Regards

Sanyi Gabe
damelcfc  
#5 Posted : 30 January 2013 08:04:00(UTC)
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damelcfc

Many pro's and many con's of having, running and maintaining in the wider field.
To specifically answer your question in regard to Insurance, I would suggest practically nothing - based on experience.
chris42  
#6 Posted : 30 January 2013 08:38:25(UTC)
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chris42

Insurance went up every year despite halving the number of accidents two years in a row ( so quartered in total) or implementing OHSAS 18001, ISO14001, ISO9001. It is possible it did not go up as much as it would have done, but this was not discernible.

My first reaction was to check it was not Friday
bob youel  
#7 Posted : 30 January 2013 08:50:48(UTC)
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bob youel

I agree with rodgerker as I have yet to hear of a situation where QA systems for H&S are any use with regards to insurance. However I have personal experience where 14000 has been beneficial for a company
jontyjohnston  
#8 Posted : 30 January 2013 12:51:44(UTC)
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jontyjohnston

Many years of implementing 18001 into lots of different companies and never once made a difference to insurance premium!
Phil Grace  
#9 Posted : 31 January 2013 08:38:38(UTC)
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Phil Grace

It is important to remember that the purpose of (EL) insurance is to deliver compensation to the injured employee. Insurers rely on good systems etc but at the end of the day if there is any form of failure of the system and an employee is injured through the negiligence of employer compensation must be paid.

Thus the existence of the system per se is no guarantee that there will be no accidents. Hence discounting is tricky. On balance firms with good, robust, tried and tested systems inc 18001 should present a better risk but that may not be sufficient to reduce premiums.

Premiums are based on claims experieince. For large firms that means ones own claims history, but for smaller firms the calculations are based on group experience i.e. that of many other firms with the same or similar trade.

Phil
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