Notifiable project, construction plan included demolition, deconstruction and refurbishment of buildings on site. PC had not appointed a demo contractor at the initial stage and appointed one approx 3 weeks into the project. CDMC reviewed H&S file information but demo paperwork was not part of that (obviously).
Question? Is the CDMC responsible for ensuring the demolition plan information is suitable or because it has not been submitted as part of the construction phase plan is it not within their role?
thanks Elburt

The CDMC should have kept the client notified at all stages and if the demo plan was a criticable part of the early stages of the work they should have made a comment to the client about the suitability of the demo systems of work at that stage. If the demo comes later on in the works the PC should still have a demo plan in place and the CDMC should still evaluate it. And we must note that the act of demolition does not always come at the begining of a project

As BL has noted the PC is the site manager and if there are problems the client should take it up with the PC and possibly thereafter CDMC

what is your role?

I am the health and safety adviser for the client.
we have a project management company that provide the cdmc role for our projects.
The demo wasn't part of enabling works, it is a big part of the project in 2 stages. I agree that it is the PC role to look at the method statement in detail, but I would have thought that the CDMC would look at the demo plan to ensure that; as it should have been part of the initial construction information, that it is sufficiently developed and advise the client that there is sufficient detail for the job to commence?
E

The client has clearly recognised that the demolition will be post site start and as such should not ask for detailed demolition information post contract start. Sufficient was posted in the CPP and accepted by the CDMC. If you had wanted to see and verify the final demolition methods then this should have been placed within the contract and the client rules for the work. Failure to have done does open the way for the PC to make cost claims for additional work and management should you now insist. Your CDMC should have advised you on this. The CDMC role now is really about design co-ordination and creation of the H&S File

Put a note against this project manager just in case you should ever need another - you will remember then who to avoid if you had made this need about the demolition clear to them.

Bob

The CDMC has the duty to ensure that adequate arrangements are in place for managing the project and this includes evaluating [not approving!] all managing arrangements for the work inclusive of the evaluation of demolition plans and noting that management systems are live throughout a project the managing arrangements should be regularly reviewed as a project proceeds to ensure that they remain adequate

CDM does not say that a CDMC has to evaluate/approve method statements/plan of work . However the question of how deep one goes into an evaluation is still open to debate but the least that should be done is an evaluation of all management systems that are in place/likely to be in place

The one big problem that many CDMC's AND H&S advisers have [along with the other parties involved] is that they may not be competent with regards to the creation and operation of management systems; a large hole in the CDM regs that was never bottomed nor will be bottomed