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I'm in the process of presenting results of noise surveys in a factory, production area 300sq.m. Currently the only control they have in a noisy production department is for everyone to wear ear protection, even those not using noisy tools. Management do understand that this is not acceptable, are taking all my guidance on board and hearing tests were recently conducted on all staff.
HSE daily calculator '100 points' are regularly exceeded in 2 - 4 hours because of frequent 1 minute durations of 90-100dB. Engineers accept that an engineering solution is required - they must reduce noise, enclose it or relocate the tools/machines/processes.
To put some urgency into the matter, I want to advise the management on the likelihood of enforcement if an inspector visited the site:
1. If the inspector requested to see the noise survey results, am I correct to say that, initially, an Improvement Order would be issued?
2. What would the order require? Reduction in noise so that non-tool-operators did not have to wear ear protection?
3. How long would be given to satisfy the order? weeks?
4. If the Improvement Order was not satisfied in time, would a Prohibition Order be issued?
JohnW
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It's an Improvement Notice and Prohibition Notice.
You cannot predict what an inspector would or would not do to be honest.
It is POSSIBLE that they may issue an improvement notice but it really does depend on circumstances and the individual inspector. For a noise issue timescales on an improvement notice would be in the region of months not weeks in my opinion.
If an Improvement Notice is not complied with the company would be prosecuted for failing to comply. However, most inspectors try and avoid getting to that point and would rather extend the Notice if possible, as long as the company is making effort to comply.
BUT again I stress you just cannot predict what an inspector will or won't do with something like a noise issue.
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Thanks, that was the thoughts that I had. An engineering solution to the problem will take time - like they have 'thinking about' solutions for a couple of months now......
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John
Don't forget to mention FFI! That may concentrate their minds.
LB
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Agree with the comments above and as they imply - I would focus on the facts of what COULD happen rather than the LIKLIHOOD of it actually happening.
Individuals and Companies experiences with the HSE and or Inspectors will differ greatly by Region/History/perceived risk etc etc etc etc....
I could tell you of an experience where noise was not a hot topic where as someone else may have been dragged over hot coals about it - that's neither here nor there in response to your question but you could get a lot of answers going down that road - stick to what could potentially happen rather than 2nd guess it.
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Thanks for responses. As Claire and dame have said, I don't know for sure how an inspector would deal with the matter, and yes I'll avoid saying 'likelihood' and just say 'this is what could happen'.
And leadbelly's comment about FFI is relevant; clearly the noise problem needs addressing, so as soon as an inspector recognises that, he will start charging for the visit, and he might spend some time looking at the premises and the data we have. Return visits will be charged too until enforcement notices are satisfied.
JohnW
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