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chris42  
#1 Posted : 06 February 2013 16:43:20(UTC)
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chris42

To de-stress a bit from job hunting, I have been sorting out a load of miscellaneous files on my computer. I noted I have a number of HSG – files (and similar) of varying levels of obscurity. Obviously L73 ( RIDDOR) is used for reference, but I also had a copy of an OSHA document on Safety incentives. The latter I have only a vague memory of reading and wondering why I have kept it. Do you all keep copies of such documents, do you have a top 5 or 10 you reference often?, Do you have hundreds and are they all neatly filed with indexes for easy reference. Or like me are they just jumbled in one or two folders on the computer. Do you not keep copies, but have a sheet with links to the files on the Internet. If you do the latter would you be bothered if during an HSE improvement process, they were no longer available (or rewritten by Ladybird books as recently quipped). How do you manage your info ? I have of course missed out the option that you have a photographic memory and you’re really intelligent and never have to look up anything twice ever.
NickH  
#2 Posted : 06 February 2013 16:54:43(UTC)
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NickH

I have a photographic memory and have no need to look up anything more tha........ ...half past six. Err, what was that? Oh yes - I have usually downloaded the reference books I've needed at a given time and kept in a neat folder on my PC (regularly backed up), with sub folders per topic. If it is something I am likely to refer to on a regular basis, I also print a hard copy and mark commonly referred to pages with sticky tabs (and also often scribble notes in the margins). I'm hopeless at remembering everything that I probably should, and have learned to simply remember the most significant areas according to what I cover within my role. As long as I know where to look, that is good enough for me. I've also got soft copies on my laptop at home (also regularly backed up) just in case...
Ron Hunter  
#3 Posted : 06 February 2013 17:08:02(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

I've certainly changed my ways over the years. More and more, I avoid keeping copies (And have virtually no hard copies) lest my reference go out of date. Then again, more and more HSE docs. are now available as free pdf and (perhaps more importantly) I'm likely enough to work for an organisation that subscribes to an info service. Don't get too close to your favourite ACoPS though. Despite popular demand, these are about to be superseded by the ever-popular Mr Men series.
Clairel  
#4 Posted : 06 February 2013 18:05:09(UTC)
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Clairel

I had huge amounts of hard copy documents up until last year when I got rid of the lot as I work form home as was sick of the amount of space they take up. I now have electronic copies of everything. All organised into sub folders. Paperless is the way to go but treat the electronic copies in the same way you would hard copies....and I don't mean prop up the wobbly desk either!!!!
chris42  
#5 Posted : 06 February 2013 19:04:00(UTC)
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chris42

Clairel Yes Document version control is vital regardless of media. I do Have some concern that future documents Will give no / little guidance and so "old" versions may give some guidance were there may be none. I don't personally like to read large computer files, if I am going to read the whole thing. However with electronic documents you can search for specific words, so find the bit you want quicker. Yes I'm in the process of sifting through and putting things in sub folders, and even sub sub folders. Ron - Mr men - like it ! To be honest after the post in another thread I thought more Brothers grimm than Ladybird, but of course we have not had the referendum yet ! Nickh - I have a lot of documents with coloured tabs as well, but may join Clairel and go fully electronic.
Kim Hedges  
#6 Posted : 07 February 2013 00:16:37(UTC)
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Kim Hedges

Interesting topic, I haven't considered this yet, but I will now. I have textbooks from different courses which I use as reference and my bulging Bookmarks file on my home computer (Safety Related). My concern is losing stuff I've filed! My next concern is how to keep the bookmarks and transfer that information to some other format for use at work? Do you know of a good way?
damelcfc  
#7 Posted : 07 February 2013 08:14:01(UTC)
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damelcfc

Just a folder called 'H&S Library' with all the free HSE downloads in it. Very rarely look in it but there if needed. Much prefer a physical copy but I'm old fashioned like that in the way I still prefer CD's and Blu Rays across 3 walls of a room.
achrn  
#8 Posted : 07 February 2013 11:12:41(UTC)
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achrn

I have (my PC tells me) 1,737,487,411 bytes of documents in 1,268 Files across 81 Folders in my reference library. That's not just H&S references (only 226,074,914 bytes, 115 Files, 14 Folders of them). They are all in a tree of folders by topic, and filenames have publisher, document number and a hint of subject, eg 'HSE_L73_guide_to_RIDDOR.pdf'. There's some duplication. For example, teh CDM regs are under Health_Safety/CDM/ and also under legal_SIs_etc/ My master set is on the work PC, I duplicate it onto a USB stick and my tablet once a week or so. I have the CDM ACOP on paper, but that's about all that's in hardcopy.
Ron Hunter  
#9 Posted : 07 February 2013 12:09:56(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

as addendum to above and ACoPs translated over to the Mr Men series: Just as Enid Blyton's Noddy Books have been 'corrected' since initial publication, so Mr Cameron has decreed (following the commissioning of separate reports that concluded that the opposite was the case) that in order to counteract the "claims culture" so prevalent in the UK several changes will be made to the Mr Men Series: As a result of (no) consultation (whatsoever) the titles 'Mr Bump' ; 'Mr Clumsy'; 'Mr Wrong' and 'Mr Mischief' are to be immediately discontinued. With immediate effect, these will be replaced by a simpler, consolidated single book: 'Little MissAdventure'. Additional print runs of 'Mr Careful' and (of course) 'Mr Perfect' will become available in the next few months. With apologies to Roger Hargreaves......................
SW  
#10 Posted : 07 February 2013 12:23:32(UTC)
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SW

I have been going through mine last night. I have hundreds of Regs and books on my laptop filed neatly under twenty-odd different folders - and currently in the process of backing them up on to a flash drive which is taking ages. I also have about 14 lever arch folders from my studies on my office shelf and, to be honest, I much rather prefer flicking through these than reading them off my computer screen.
achrn  
#11 Posted : 07 February 2013 12:27:02(UTC)
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achrn

SW wrote:
I also have about 14 lever arch folders from my studies on my office shelf and, to be honest, I much rather prefer flicking through these than reading them off my computer screen.
What changed that for me was getting a tablet. I used to dislike reading from a PC or laptop screen, I find reading from the tablet as easy as reading from paper, and can carry my whole library with me. Since getting the tablet, I rarely read from paper.
bilbo  
#12 Posted : 07 February 2013 12:51:17(UTC)
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bilbo

If I am honest I am a bit of a techno phobe - however I do store all my reference docs on the PC - but rather than read from the screen, I will highlight and print ther bits I need when I need them. That said I also keep a hard copy of the six pack in one folder beside the desk at all times. Like others this is tabbed and annotated in the margins with other references. Hey - it works for me.
SW  
#13 Posted : 07 February 2013 13:28:09(UTC)
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SW

Good point achrn about the tablet - that is something I will think about
walker  
#14 Posted : 07 February 2013 13:32:28(UTC)
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walker

I was rapidly traveling down the digital route................ Then just before Christmas the local substation pretty much blew up and we had no power for 2 days thus no server either etc etc I've rethinking my reliance on electrons since
Lisa Boulton  
#15 Posted : 07 February 2013 13:36:25(UTC)
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Lisa Boulton

What a lovely topic, and we are all being nice to each other and all understanding that we each have an opinion and there isn't just one right answer..... For me a mix of both hard copies and pdf's stored on the computer. My only problem is sometimes I forget that a) I have found a particularly useful publication and b) that I have then downloaded it......maybe that's age creeping up on me. I use sub folders with a 'topic' title such as WAH or CDM to help find what I need. Where I worked before we had a large H&S library (mainly about things we didn't actually do) but it was really difficult to use as someone had 'alphabetised' it and so you had to know the exact title to find the reference document, as an example RIDDOR was under 'A' as in 'A Guide to the Reporting of.....' it was a challenge to 'guess the title' a good game on a slow day..........
walker  
#16 Posted : 07 February 2013 13:37:18(UTC)
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walker

ron hunter wrote:
as addendum to above and ACoPs translated over to the Mr Men series: Just as Enid Blyton's Noddy Books have been 'corrected' since initial publication, so Mr Cameron has decreed (following the commissioning of separate reports that concluded that the opposite was the case) that in order to counteract the "claims culture" so prevalent in the UK several changes will be made to the Mr Men Series: As a result of (no) consultation (whatsoever) the titles 'Mr Bump' ; 'Mr Clumsy'; 'Mr Wrong' and 'Mr Mischief' are to be immediately discontinued. With immediate effect, these will be replaced by a simpler, consolidated single book: 'Little MissAdventure'. Additional print runs of 'Mr Careful' and (of course) 'Mr Perfect' will become available in the next few months. With apologies to Roger Hargreaves......................
What about Mr Common Sense and Mr Red tape I guess all of these people will be depicted working in offices as the "government" think these are the only workplaces that exist in this country
Kim Hedges  
#17 Posted : 07 February 2013 13:45:00(UTC)
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Kim Hedges

Somebody sent me a PM on this topic and funny as it seems I've lost it, could you post it here on this thread pretty please?
PH2  
#18 Posted : 07 February 2013 14:04:31(UTC)
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PH2

kKim, this might be of interest. Sharing favorites Favorites, also known as bookmarks, are a convenient way to organize and link to webpages that you visit frequently. If you use Internet Explorer on several computers, you can easily save your favorites on one computer and import that list onto another computer. If you use both Internet Explorer and another web browsing program, you can keep your favorites synchronized by importing them between programs. To import or export favorites Open Internet Explorer. Click the Add to Favorites button , and then click Import and Export. Follow the instructions in the Import/Export Wizard. By default, the Import/Export Wizard creates a standard HTML file named bookmark.htm and saves it in the My Documents folder. When you use the wizard to import your favorites, it will look for that file. Notes To Share or move favorites from one computer to another, export or copy the Bookmark.htm file to a disk or flash drive. You can then import your favorites from the disk or flash drive to the new computer. To print your list of favorites, open Bookmark.htm in Internet Explorer and then click the Print button .
Kim Hedges  
#19 Posted : 07 February 2013 14:18:00(UTC)
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Kim Hedges

Thanks.
chris42  
#20 Posted : 07 February 2013 17:09:42(UTC)
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chris42

Further to the above on bookmarks, I was considering a word or excel document with hyperlinks to both online resources and my own downloaded PDF files. In theory this document list may become long, but could be word searched to quickly find the topic you want and thus all the related linked you have accumulated. This all could be put on a data drive / pen drive and taken to any computer. The list could even store your own notes. Yep I am that sad.
Ron Hunter  
#21 Posted : 07 February 2013 22:43:00(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

walker wrote:
What about Mr Common Sense and Mr Red tape
My self-imposed challenge above was to stick with actual Mr Men titles (apart, that is, from my 'Little MissAdventure' pun).
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