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Once again a public enquiry into the care (misnomer if there ever was one) and treatment of patients has found a catalogue of failings from the top to the bottom. According to the report between 2005-08 there were between 400-1200 more deaths than would have been expected - staggering.
As health and safety practitioners I'm sure many of you will have some empathy with the families and loved ones who have suffered. I know I have seen at first hand the apathy which is now considered the norm by hospital staff and I'm not talking about Stafford.
Whilst retribution will not bring these people back or reduce their suffering I can't help but feel that there is a degree of criminality involved. Individuals should be held responsible and accountable for these failings. It seems to me that if you are in the health service or in banking you are afforded immunity from prosecution. The corporate veil gets longer and longer.
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I'm with you 100% on that Ray.
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And has anyone read the recommendations with regards the HSE?
Responsibility for, and effectiveness of, regulating healthcare systems governance – Health and Safety Executive functions in healthcare settings
87 Ensuring the utility of a health and safety function in a clinical setting.
The Health and Safety Executive is clearly not the right organisation to be focusing on healthcare. Either the Care Quality Commission should be given power to prosecute 1974 Act offences or a new offence containing comparable provisions should be created under which the Care Quality Commission has power to launch a prosecution.
88 Information sharing
The information contained in reports for the Reporting of Injuries, Diseases and Dangerous Occurrence Regulations should be made available to healthcare regulators through the serious untoward incident system in order to provide a check on the consistency of trusts’ practice in reporting fatalities and other serious incidents.
89 Reports on serious untoward incidents involving death of or serious injury to patients or employees should be shared with the Health and Safety Executive.
90 Assistance in deciding on prosecutions
In order to determine whether a case is so serious, either in terms of the breach of safety requirements or the consequences for any victims, that the public interest requires individuals or organisations to be brought to account for their failings, the Health and Safety Executive should obtain expert advice, as is done in the field of healthcare litigation and fitness to practise proceedings.
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You jest ?
"Care Quality Commission". A contradiction in terms.
Rarely has an organisation responsible for an oversight regime been run by so many administration failures. A look at the top staff of that organisation reveals that many have fled other disasters, of their own making, previously.
A cynic may be led to believe that it is deliberate that the organisation is incapable of boiling an egg without scalding itself.
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Ray
I had similar thoughts.
There's talk about new laws ( more red tape) to stop this happening again (we've heard that one before!), but I can't see why section 37 can't be used now.
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http://www.ted.com/talks...do_we_heal_medicine.htmlThis sums it all up and just goes to show how advanced the OSH approach is compared to how some Doctors work. Basically the presenter Atul Gamwande himself a doctor explains why he thinks the approach taken in surgery in the 21st century has more to do with 19th century cowboys. After viewing this you may look at the humble checklist in a new light. Jeff
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