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Roysta  
#1 Posted : 25 February 2013 10:13:55(UTC)
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Roysta

Good morning, could anybody advise me on the regulations/training etc of an in-house team hiring a mini digger to excavate a couple of small trees from a commecial office block site?

cheers
jontyjohnston  
#2 Posted : 25 February 2013 10:46:56(UTC)
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jontyjohnston

Hi there

Operations are normally covered by a CSR/CSCS ticket which demonstrates the operator is competent for a particular bit of a kit.

Its an externally run/certified course.
chas  
#3 Posted : 25 February 2013 11:24:30(UTC)
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chas

How big are your 'small' trees and what are they? I only ask because they could have a tree preservation order on them, check with the Local Authority before removing them. Apologies for not answering your question.
Roysta  
#4 Posted : 25 February 2013 15:28:31(UTC)
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Roysta

Hi Chas, no problems with TPOs but fair point

I guess what I'm asking is if an operators HAS to be qualified/registered or if this is best practice only
Flynnee  
#5 Posted : 25 February 2013 15:48:50(UTC)
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Flynnee

Some other points to consider
HSG47 (underground services, are drawings available)
CAT &GENNY Survey
Segregation / fence of site
Advice people on site of the planned works
Be wary of 1 ton mini excavators they can become unstable
If you are removing trees what size /height, remember size for size what is on top is normally below ground
Will the excavator become 'lifting equipment' to remove trees of so ensure the excavator has a lifting point, and a lifting plan.
Roysta  
#6 Posted : 25 February 2013 16:56:00(UTC)
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Roysta

Flynnee, some good advice, appreciated
Phil Grace  
#7 Posted : 26 February 2013 08:12:09(UTC)
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Phil Grace

Has the risk of underground services been considered and risk assessed?
DNW  
#8 Posted : 27 February 2013 13:32:47(UTC)
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DNW

It's all about proving competence when things go wrong and you end up in court. Part of such competence would include proving formal training to an accredited standard has been undertaken by the operator and banksman. CPCS (CITB), NPORS and ITSSAR are all accreditation bodies that approve training organisations to carry out training to their recognised standards.

But bear in mind competence also includes experience. Reading between the lines I would suggest you do not have the personnel to cover this area.

Use a contractor, probably cost you a day's hire of a machine and operator which should be under £200. But if you do, remember you have a responsibility to ensure he/she has the appropriate competence and also relevant maintenance and inspection records for his/her machine.

Thanks
DNW
DNW  
#9 Posted : 27 February 2013 13:35:40(UTC)
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DNW

Forgot to mention.

You could do a manual handling assessment, provide them with appropriate workwear, drinking water and a couple of shovels, a little sweat never hurt anyone.

You'd still need to do a CAT & Genny Survey though, well...a competent person would.

Leave the trees there.
Kim Hedges  
#10 Posted : 27 February 2013 13:47:56(UTC)
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Kim Hedges

Mini Diggers = Small Australians.
DNW  
#11 Posted : 27 February 2013 13:59:45(UTC)
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DNW

In that case replace the drinking water with a coiple of tinnies
DNW  
#12 Posted : 27 February 2013 14:00:56(UTC)
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DNW

I meant couple..or two..or a pair....definitely not a coiple
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