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MaxPayne  
#1 Posted : 07 March 2013 13:42:58(UTC)
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MaxPayne

Has anyone got any experiences they'd be prepared to share with regard to residents using scooters in sheltered accommodation, in/out of lifts on various floor levels, charging them in corridors with cables fed through letterboxes (fire doors), nothing to prevent damage to glazed panels or to fall down staircases, etc. A simple blanket ban is out of the question since refurbished blocks have included storage areas where numerous scooters etc can be held and re-charged securely, so a precedence has been assumed. The subject isn't necessarily limited to OAP blocks and can include tower blocks. Any suggestions welcomed. Thanks.
DaveDaniel  
#2 Posted : 07 March 2013 15:32:41(UTC)
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DaveDaniel

Hi Max: my Dad (89) uses one of these and has done so for about 8 years. He lives in a Sheltered Housing unit. Rugby has had an elderly couple die when a vandal set fire to the mobility scooter stored in a make-shift lean-to outside. The fumes entered through a window used for charging. I could argue that these things are inherently dangerous and should be banned I suppose, but then that would constrain my Dad to the confines of his four walls whereas now he's out and about all day. Yes, there are risks, but you have to balance this against the quality of life. Yes, he could drive it down the stairwell, and he could fall down the stairs too. A number of the other residents where he lives have scooters and all happily and safely use the lifts and corridors. Some argue they couldn't walk to a remote charging station away from the building. These scooters are often more like replacement wheelchairs than a new means of fast transport. The local council have attempted to impose controls especially after the fatality. My Dad now has to recharge in his bedroom. My own view is that anyone who builds assisted living facilities has to recognise and adapt the facility to allow for the parking and recharging of scooters and wheelchairs. The provision of properly constructed secure shelters, external charging points etc. would do much to improve things. We're all getting older and I suspect the population of scooters will grow, and we need to accept them.
chas  
#3 Posted : 07 March 2013 16:07:29(UTC)
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chas

Whilst this may be a bit off topic, (for which I apologise), it may be of interest all the same. It follows a recent BBC broadcast about the need for scooter training........... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sea...ity%20scooter%20training
SteveM  
#4 Posted : 07 March 2013 17:47:47(UTC)
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SteveM

In my opinion (not qualified health and safety yet but training). They should be governed by the rules of electric Fork Lift Trucks (obviously not all). Harmful / explosive gases are released when charging so good ventilation is required. Danger of trailing wires Possibility of burns from battery acid and electric arcing / fire if shorted. To name but a few hazards My Grandfather had an electric wheel chair he was 94 when I visited him a few years ago and it was great for his mobility, returning to his flat he drove into my grandmothers legs, not aware what was happening he just kept powering into her, if I was not there to pull him back he could have caused some serious damage to her she was 93. I think they should be kept in remote storage / charging stations and manual powered chairs to return to rooms / flats either assisted or not. I would also like them to be fitted with proximity sensors to prevent them from hitting object in front of them, avoiding situations such as what happened to my grandmother and many other pedestrians.
hopeful  
#5 Posted : 08 March 2013 08:21:38(UTC)
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hopeful

We have similar issues, I work for a housing association. We are reviewing the guidance that we provide but ask for no trailing wires etc. Fire officers in the past have had issue with charging in corridors. I have received a number of sales leaflets for scooter store charging containers - similar to the small garden furniture stores that you can buy, secure and safe - it may be worth considering and I am sure a google search will find them. We have ended up with requiring tenants charge the scooters within their premises but this is not always appropriate considering the size and we have some tenants who live on the first floor without access to a lift who use these.
jwk  
#6 Posted : 08 March 2013 13:33:41(UTC)
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jwk

Steve M, just a note; mobility aids no longer use wet acid batteries, they use a gel type which evolves negligible amounts of hydrogen in charging. We no longer need to have dedicated charging rooms in our care centres, normal ventilation is all that is needed
firesafety101  
#7 Posted : 08 March 2013 13:34:43(UTC)
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firesafety101

I own and use such a scooter myself, it is a 'boot scooter" and comes apart for storage in the car or elsewhere. The battery slides out for recharging and I can do that anywhere. The problems I have is the lack of understanding of people who don't have to use them, just like a lot of people on this thread. I stay in hotels and can't get around so have to leave the scooter either in my car or outside, if the latter then it is open to vandalism. Hotel rooms are too small and corridors too small, doors that are closed are so difficult to open and so on......... When on holiday I hire a scooter and have to store it in my room, taking up so much space, charging overnight. Have you tried ordering a meal in a self service restaurant while seated on a scooter? Have you tried to get to a table in a busy restaurant with tables and chairs so close together it's impossible? Everybody looking no staring at the user? They are not the most convenient thingy in the world but so essential to some members of the community so why not try to accommodate them and their users. They have to be used, they have to be recharged so how about some assistance you good people out there.
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