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John J  
#1 Posted : 25 March 2013 07:36:40(UTC)
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John J

Never mind horse meat, salmonella, listeria etc. here's the real risk - http://www.thesun.co.uk/...-hit-in-face-by-one.html
Invictus  
#2 Posted : 25 March 2013 07:57:24(UTC)
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Invictus

Sorry it was written in the Sun and anything written in that paper is not worth reading.
Invictus  
#3 Posted : 25 March 2013 08:04:50(UTC)
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Invictus

Invictus wrote:
Sorry it was written in the Sun and anything written in that paper is not worth reading.
Should of added 'justice for the 96'
SamJen1973  
#4 Posted : 25 March 2013 11:49:54(UTC)
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SamJen1973

I for one was glad to have Andy McNab's views on the matter. I now know which side of the flapjack issue I stand.
Wood28983  
#5 Posted : 25 March 2013 11:58:45(UTC)
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Wood28983

http://www.telegraph.co....riangular-flapjacks.html and numerous other reports. The bit that puzzles me is how someone 'accidentally' throws a flapjack as suggested in this article.
David Bannister  
#6 Posted : 25 March 2013 13:03:25(UTC)
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David Bannister

Is a flapjack a foreign imported idea? If so, they should all be banned along with pizza, sweet & sour, jalfrezi, couscous, falafel, burgers, chilli, raw fish, caviar, maple syrup and lager. Back to basics I say: well-boiled turnips, swedes, cabbage, beef, lamb, chicken and pork, with rhubarb and apple suet pud with custard. No risk of sharp-cornered missiles there.
A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 25 March 2013 13:20:11(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

David Bannister wrote:
Is a flapjack a foreign imported idea? If so, they should all be banned along with pizza, sweet & sour, jalfrezi, couscous, falafel, burgers, chilli, raw fish, caviar, maple syrup and lager. Back to basics I say: well-boiled turnips, swedes, cabbage, beef, lamb, chicken and pork, with rhubarb and apple suet pud with custard. No risk of sharp-cornered missiles there.
Almost everything mentioned here as being traditionally English/British food has been imported at sometime or other; rhubarb was originally a Chinese medicine and only introduced in the 18th century. A lot of the ‘traditional foods’ were brought in by the Romans and of course potatoes come from the Andes. Flapjack is mentioned in Shakespeare but it probably refers to a soft (and safe) pancake. The traditional British solution to 'dangerous' food is to boil it to destruction so only a sloppy mess is left. It should also be so unappetising that people avoid it whenever possible- elimination is of course at the top of the hierarchy of control. Has anybody banned egg rolling or any other Easter type activities at work yet?
Liz1  
#8 Posted : 25 March 2013 13:34:26(UTC)
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Liz1

The offending flapjack has just had its own slot on the BBC lunchtime news!! Am I missing the point (no pun intended). The reason they are being banned is because someone was hit by one when it was thrown by another student. It could have been a chip, a pen or a fork. Why don't they deal with what is an obvious behaviour issue.
Invictus  
#9 Posted : 25 March 2013 15:01:21(UTC)
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Invictus

Sorry, but I think some people fail to see the seriousness of the matter, this is something with 3 sharp corners for gods sake, it could have had someones eye out. If it would have been made round it would have been less dangerous.
hserc  
#10 Posted : 25 March 2013 15:14:42(UTC)
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hserc

Hear, Hear! I for one would support the immediate suspension of sales of all oaty-based comestibles until such time as thorough risk assessments are completed and appropriate controls are in place. Disclaimer: Other, non-oaty based foodstuffs may also present risks under certain circumstances.
A Kurdziel  
#11 Posted : 25 March 2013 15:58:18(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

My dangerous foodstuff is soup- too hot and staff manage to scald themselves: too tepid it just encourages the growth of microorganisms and causes food poisoning. Should we be providing training or heat resistant gloves for staff? Banning things is just the coward’s way out. So what is the solution?
Jane Blunt  
#12 Posted : 25 March 2013 17:51:22(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

Invictus wrote:
If it would have been made round it would have been less dangerous.
I'm not convinced Invictus. Surely a round one could be given spin like a frisbee and could gain more momentum.
Barnaby again  
#13 Posted : 25 March 2013 18:49:20(UTC)
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Barnaby again

Canopener  
#14 Posted : 25 March 2013 19:01:04(UTC)
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Canopener

SamJen1973 wrote:
I for one was glad to have Andy McNab's views on the matter. I now know which side of the flapjack issue I stand.
Flap jacks as standard issue for the SAS perhaps :-)
Invictus  
#15 Posted : 26 March 2013 07:10:59(UTC)
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Invictus

Jane Blunt wrote:
Invictus wrote:
If it would have been made round it would have been less dangerous.
I'm not convinced Invictus. Surely a round one could be given spin like a frisbee and could gain more momentum.
I apologise, I forgot that when cooked the oats become hard and this could cause a nasty graze with the spinning of the round flap jack. I was thinking that maybe they could make them thinner but this could have a 'shotgun' type effect and break up in the air and hit a number of students, heavier and you would need a manual handling assessment for it being served and carrying it back to the table. The alternative is ban students from schools and colleges and then they wouldn't mess about as they learn from experiences.
HSSnail  
#16 Posted : 26 March 2013 08:06:13(UTC)
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HSSnail

Could be worse could be star shaped!
jay  
#17 Posted : 26 March 2013 13:36:56(UTC)
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jay

HSE comment on flapjacks ban:- http://www.hse.gov.uk/pr...ecord/2013/sun250313.htm Article:"Flapjack whack rap claptrap" - The Sun, 25 March 2013 Response date:25 March 2013 A spokesman for HSE said: "We often come across half-baked decisions taken in the name of health and safety, but this one takes the biscuit. The real issue isn't what shape the flapjacks are, but the fact that pupils are throwing them at each other - and that's a matter of discipline, and has got nothing to do with health and safety as we know it. We're happy to make clear that flapjacks of all shapes and sizes continue to have our full backing."
walker  
#18 Posted : 26 March 2013 15:10:34(UTC)
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walker

So.................. is IOSH going to sponsor a flapjack bake off? Maybe with a special category for the most dangerous shape.
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