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Roz  
#1 Posted : 05 April 2013 09:44:54(UTC)
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Roz

Can anyone advise me if, or where, the definitions of Accident, Incident and Near Misses are laid down in UK H&S legislation? Many thanks.
Peter_OC  
#2 Posted : 05 April 2013 10:02:21(UTC)
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Peter_OC

I do not believe that you will find a definition in legislation. Better off with a dictionary. Peter
CliveLowery  
#3 Posted : 05 April 2013 10:04:04(UTC)
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CliveLowery

There is a detailed list with explanations in the RIDDOR 2012 Approved Code of Parctice (ACOP) L73 which you can download in PDF format from the HSE website. Regards Clive
teh_boy  
#4 Posted : 05 April 2013 10:20:31(UTC)
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teh_boy

HSE_Steve  
#5 Posted : 05 April 2013 12:40:14(UTC)
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HSE_Steve

Hello there, definitions of those terms wont be found in H&S legislation - they are whatever the company in question wich them to be. We work on a lot of different sites for different companies and the definitions vary wildy - especially Near Miss. For what its worth, my interpretation for use on our own site is; Near Miss - Something unintended has happened but no-one was hurt, such as you trip in a pot-hole but catch yourself and aren't hurt. (some would say the pot hole was a near miss, or a near miss condition but I would say it was simply a hazard). Accident - Someone is hurt. Incident - Something is damaged. Hope this helps. Steve
HSE_Steve  
#6 Posted : 05 April 2013 12:42:21(UTC)
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HSE_Steve

also.... I think too many people get hung up on definitions, in my experience the HSE don't - all they are interested in are whats happened and how are you going to stop it happening again.
colinreeves  
#7 Posted : 05 April 2013 13:50:28(UTC)
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colinreeves

Whilst Steve is generally correct, some H&S legislation does define these. SI 2012 No 1743 defines "accident" and "incident" in Reg 3. Definitions extend to "very serious" and "serious". A "near miss" is not defined, but is implied in Reg 3(d) where an "incident is an event or sequence of events .. that endangered, or if not corrected would endanger.." http://www.legislation.g.../2012/1743/contents/made You will note only last year so this is not ancient legislation!!
colinreeves  
#8 Posted : 05 April 2013 14:01:38(UTC)
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colinreeves

This post seems to be on the site twice! Teh_boy, some H&S legislation does define these. SI 2012 No 1743 defines "accident" and "incident" in Reg 3. Definitions extend to "very serious" and "serious". A "near miss" is not defined, but is implied in Reg 3(d) where an "incident is an event or sequence of events .. that endangered, or if not corrected would endanger.." http://www.legislation.g.../2012/1743/contents/made You will note only last year so this is not ancient legislation!!
teh_boy  
#9 Posted : 05 April 2013 14:09:02(UTC)
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teh_boy

I am impressed Colin! And on a Friday :) You learn something new every day! That said - it's an odd place to define it - I would never have read those regulations unless you had linked to them!
Moderator 2  
#10 Posted : 05 April 2013 14:10:10(UTC)
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colinreeves wrote:
This post seems to be on the site twice!
It was on the site twice, but I have amalgamated the two copies
colinreeves  
#11 Posted : 05 April 2013 14:59:57(UTC)
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colinreeves

teh_boy wrote:
That said - it's an odd place to define it - I would never have read those regulations unless you had linked to them!
And it is a pain. As a shore based example (so not covered in these regs) consider starting your car and driving off. If you did not turn the wheel you would have a crash. In other words, you have not "corrected" so this is an incident. Under these regulations this is reportable .... Totally illogical and pressure is being put on the UK government to recind or amend this wording!
walker  
#12 Posted : 08 April 2013 08:18:39(UTC)
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walker

I avoid the word accident as too many people relate it to unavoidable Injury events. Non-injury events. Near miss (but really a near hit)
jay  
#13 Posted : 08 April 2013 14:43:40(UTC)
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jay

Dor our internal reporting system, we have the following categorisation of Health, Safety, Security & Environmental (HSSE) Events Potential Hazard:- A hazard has been identified Near Miss:- An “event” has occurred but nobody has been injured and no equipment has been damaged. Incident:-An event has occurred and there has been damage to equipment or a spill has gone beyond the point at which material can be recovered. Accident:-An event has occurred and somebody has been injured. Accidents are further classified into four:- First Aid, Medical Treatment, Restricted Work & Lost time
jontyjohnston  
#14 Posted : 09 April 2013 14:51:40(UTC)
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jontyjohnston

Lets keep it simple, to avoid all that confusion that abounds! An accident is an unplanned event with an unwanted outcome. Irrespective of the outcome which is normally down to chance. Something happened you didn't plan for or want, find out why and stop it happening again. To much time wasted on semantics...
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