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anybody know of signage that represents ' e-cigarettes not allowed' or similar?
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I'd be very, very surprised if there is one that is that specific/ bespoke.
If there is a requirement for any then I'd suggest a 'Blue Peter' version would have to suffice.
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Do you think there'd be any demand for them? I'd been toying with the idea of designing some.
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with no proven health hazard from e-cigarettes and some probable benefits, I suggest that this is an HR problem/decision, not H&S
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merv wrote:with no proven health hazard from e-cigarettes and some probable benefits, I suggest that this is an HR problem/decision, not H&S
Quite an optimisitc view! I'd take the slant that they have as-yet undefined health hazards! The vapour they emitt cannot possibly be purely H and O.
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I think this subject is going to be a good debate topic as users increase in a bid to stop smoking. I have had a number of discussions on this at work recently as to weather or not to allow it in the office and by members of the public and visitors. Yes there are the benefits of staff trying to stop and as a business encouraging healthy staff but its socially not as excepted these days in my opinion. We have had talks as to whether or not we allow staff to use them in the office etc.
with regards to members of the public, some light up red and I think if seen by other persons, especially those from non-EU where smoking is not banned could give the wrong impression that smoking is permitted so for now its not allowed.
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jake wrote:........... The vapour they emitt cannot possibly be purely H and O.
In the same way that the steam rising from your coffee cup is more than water vapour.
Nicotine and caffiene are both stimulants.
Are you going to ban coffee in your workplace?
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Thanks for your comments
According to the NHS and other such reputable organisations there is no proved benefit nor have adequate studies been undertaken to appraise the effects of the waste smoke on bystanders and we must also consider COSHH* [*err to caution when fume/smoke is present and we do not know what the fumes contain] and waste as such products fall under WEEE and Haz waste. This is in addition to problems with fire as yet again the cause of fires have been sourced to problems with recharging such equipment
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I suppose words like reasonable , significant ect don't apply here then
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quote=norfolkboy]I suppose words like reasonable , significant ect don't apply here then
Maybe not, but the words annoying and wrong impression do! Especially when people start using them in meetings, in the canteen, whilst driving a company vehicle etc
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That would make it a company policy decision - which is fine. If thats what your company wants to do - well ok. But I can find no significant risks and have no basis in law to enforce a ban . I would also be surprised if anyone would mistake an e-cigarette for the real thing. But in answering the question asked - I very much doubt if any one will be producing signate for this.
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Not seen any signs banning their use but I have seen signs recently at the departure gates in Riga Airport, Latvia with the following wording.
"No Smoking - E-Cig Permitted" accompanied by pictograms.
Seems the UK is lagging behind.
PS: I am a committed user of e-cigs. Smoked for 25 years then stopped almost overnight with e-cigs. Feel much healthier now and play ice hockey regularly. That is a physically demanding sport and I would never have managed it if I had still smoked.
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The problem Steve is that there is no reliable research. I assume E-cigerattes are better than real cigerattes. But I don't know that.
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I am somewhat ignorant on these new beasties, but how do they work? Is there a small heating element?
If so, then there would be a case for a strict ban where flammables are potentially present (COMAH sites etc). If so then appropriate signage would be required.
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Not an answer or a new topic, but a related anyway:
I had some staff asking if they could have an E-Smoking shelter, as they could not smoke their "E-fags" indoors and, they did not wish to use the "real" smoking shelter, as they were trying to give up.
I said, "not my problem mate - go see HR". A bit offhand I suppose, but it was a Monday and the week was not starting well.
;-)
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norfolkboy wrote: I would also be surprised if anyone would mistake an e-cigarette for the real thing.
It depends on your environment! I am employed at a large Premier League football club where these are banned items (along with many other Clubs) & it is almost impossible to detect the difference in a crowd of tens of thousands!
It then also encourages others to light up traditional cigarettes as they see others "smoking".
I have had some very "interesting" conversations with supporters, especially on European nights, when you try to politely explain that not only can they not smoke...they can't enjoy an alcoholic drink either!!
Zyggy
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Ron
WhileI agree that the emissions from coffee are more than just water vapour (or coffee woud be odourless), are you implying that the caffeine is given off?
LB
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He is an example against
Driver was seen working in the yard having a good old crafty fag, cuffing'it as its known, after he took a puff.
He was watched for a while by a few members of Management, then approached (driver was distance away). When asked he pulled a E-Cigarette from his pocket and claimed it was that he was smoking.
Difficult to prove it wasn't indeed the E-Cigarette he was using.
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Mr Flibble,
Further to my posting #16, we are also experiencing the same problem, & as you say, extremely difficult to prove unless we train our security cameras on individuals & therefore have visual evidence.
Accordingly, their use is banned along with the traditional variety.
Zyggy
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I think I see another Elf and Safety story coming !!
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