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KKemp  
#1 Posted : 16 April 2013 13:59:32(UTC)
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KKemp

Hello,

Of course we ensure that everyone has received on site training before using one of these trucks but i have now been informed that they need to do an accredited course (similar to FLTs) to be trained.

Does anyone know any more information on this?
Thanks for your help / feedback
katie
jontyjohnston  
#2 Posted : 16 April 2013 14:39:35(UTC)
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jontyjohnston

Katie

The training requirement for an piece of work equipment is covered under PUWER, Regulation 9 and says "Every employer should ensure that all persons who use work equipment have received adequate training for purposes of health and safety, including training in the methods which may be adopted when using the work equipment, any risks which such use may entail and precautions to be taken".

I used to be a FLT instructor and those requirements are laid down in ACOP L117 but this is for "rider operated" equipment.

If yours are the type that persons walk to operate then this ACOP wont apply. I have never heard of an accredited course for these. I quick Google will throw up lots of companies offering training, but none claiming their courses are accredited.

Interested to know who has informed you of this requirement?
KKemp  
#3 Posted : 16 April 2013 22:01:16(UTC)
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KKemp

Thanks for your feedback.

We have a trainer in at the moment who is covering our FLT and MEWP training and it was him who mentioned it. Obviously wil not mention his name.

I also thought this was the case.
Thanks
Katie
jontyjohnston  
#4 Posted : 17 April 2013 09:23:02(UTC)
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jontyjohnston

Sounds like a punt for business Katie!

I used to work for a leading FLT manufacturer and guess what, we had 40 shop trucks rattling round the factory carrying the bits for the ones we were building. So, very robust training programme, even for the operatives who had to drive partially completed trucks between workstations.

We also had at least 30 electric pallet trucks which required only a basic walk through on how they operated.
IanDakin  
#5 Posted : 18 April 2013 10:05:17(UTC)
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IanDakin

Hi
Paragraph 5 of the introduction to L117 states
"Even though the ACOP and guidance on training apply to stacking rider operated lift trucks and do not explicitly cover all types of lift truck, the general principles can be used as a guide when training operators of other truck types."
So your training provider is wrong to say an accredited course is required, but, the HSE would probably expect the training to follow the ACoP.
Also, ensure that the latest version (version 3, 2013) is what your trainer follows.
It is free to download from the HSE website.
Ian
phargreaves04  
#6 Posted : 19 April 2013 12:52:16(UTC)
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phargreaves04

if you are talking about Pedestrian Powered Pallet Trucks, then yes it is prudent to use accredited trainer.
Jake  
#7 Posted : 22 April 2013 09:43:09(UTC)
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Jake

This is not a punt for business, but it does not mean you 100% have to use an accreditted trainer / course. OP, it's important you remember alot of opinions on here are not hard and fast fact.

OP, your trainer was referring to the RTITB NORS training competency framework, which is industry best practice:

Info: http://www.rtitb.co.uk/nors
Matrix: http://www.rtitb.co.uk/a...RS_Matrix__V8.05.12_.pdf

My last organisation did not follow the above for non-rider operated lift trucks, and could happily demonstrate compliance, but I do think the training durations are about correct.
Safety Smurf  
#8 Posted : 22 April 2013 11:00:49(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

If you are using an accredited training provider (which I would not personally want to justify why I wouldn't) it is highly likely that is a requirement of their accreditation that they only deliver approved courses.

When I was an in-house instructor (registered). I trained and tested operators on PPT's in the same manner as I did FLT operators.
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