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davyrob  
#1 Posted : 29 April 2013 16:39:12(UTC)
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davyrob

Hi

First ever post so please go easy on me. A question has come up at work that I am trying to find written in guidance somewhere but have so far failed.

A manager at my works is adamant that lifting accessories on an overhead crane do not qualify as a suspended load, in the particular example we are debating it is a lifting beam on an overhead crane. I am convinced that this is in fact a suspended load in its own right and should be recognised as that but I cannot find any legislation or guidance to support this, at least not in the UK although there is plenty in the U.S (ASME B30.20 for example). The only reference I can find to lifting beams in LOLER classifies them as accessories and lists the load seperately but surely it should be part of it?

Can anyone supply any information to support this one-way or the other?

Any advice or clarification greatly appreciated
alexmccreadie13  
#2 Posted : 29 April 2013 19:02:09(UTC)
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alexmccreadie13

Davy it is not part of the load but its weight must be taken into consideration to make sure you are not overloading the crane.
Trying to read into your post are you possibly more worried about the frame being left on the crane when not in use?
If that is the case then try to get people to either remove it when not in use or find a way of securing it to the hook so it cannot be dislodged.

Ta Alex
davyrob  
#3 Posted : 30 April 2013 13:02:16(UTC)
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davyrob

Hi Alex

Thanks for your reply,

Please take a look at this and see what you think, I know this refers to The United States Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) but in my opinion the same principles should apply here.

http://www.osha.gov/pls/...RETATIONS&p_id=26002

Thanks,
Davy.
johnmc  
#4 Posted : 30 April 2013 13:52:40(UTC)
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johnmc

Davy,

As an AP working in construction for many years I have always considered that anything below the hook is part of the load and anything above part of the crane. Regardless of the technical aspects it is best to air on the side of caution to maintain a reasonable factor of safety.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Canopener  
#5 Posted : 30 April 2013 21:07:47(UTC)
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Canopener

Have you checked the definitions section of the regs and associated HSE ACoP/guidance? I understand you wanting to compare this with OSHA but I would urge a little caution in that approach. I would have thought that the answer is lurking within LOLER somewhere (try the find function). In saying that, I would tend to agree with John above, hook downwards is load.
Canopener  
#6 Posted : 30 April 2013 21:14:18(UTC)
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Canopener

And a 2 minute check of http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/loler.pdf looks to reveal the answer on page 15!!!!!!!

Load - the total weight to be lifted including all accessories!!!!!!!
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