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jarsmith83  
#1 Posted : 02 May 2013 11:41:07(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Can anyone tell me, are British Standards to be used retrospectively i.e. used to refer to when inspecting a fixed ladder installation? Or, are they to be referred to only on initial installation?
achrn  
#2 Posted : 02 May 2013 12:46:43(UTC)
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achrn

You can do what you like. You could inspect a ladder and say "this meets BS whatever:whenever" if you want. You could note that it doesn't meet current version but does meet previous version, or indeed that it doesn't meet any version. Since satisfying a particular revision of a BS doesn't normally mean much (it doesn't absolve you of the need to RA or provide suitable or sufficient etc) I'm not sure I understand the significance of the question. Like the recent mis-marketing of the first aid kits BS by suppliers - the BS defines a standard for what should be in a standard kit, but there's no law that says the kit in a workplace must meet the BS, and providing a BS kit doesn't get you out of assessing your requirements and providing an appropriate kit. In the few places where BSs are mandated in statute, it always (as far as I know) refers to a particular revision, since otherwise we would be in the situation that a BS drafting committee would be changing the law. Whether a statute that refers to a BS applies retrospectively depends on the statute, but few do (I think).
jarsmith83  
#3 Posted : 02 May 2013 16:32:30(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Thank you for your very detailed answer. So, for instance, if you go to a place of work and the steps the even in height etc then I would refer to the building regulations approved document which states that the workplace regulations will be met if the information in this document is complied with. Are you saying that the British Standards have no relevance?
Kate  
#4 Posted : 02 May 2013 18:34:52(UTC)
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Kate

Of course British Standards have relevance. They are relevant to whether you say a thing meets British Standards or not. In some cases you will want to say that the thing meets the standard, eg if it is your policy that these things should meet that standard, or you may want a means of showing that the thing is an acceptable thing without drawing up and justifying your own specification from scratch. In other words they have the relevance you choose to give them.
achrn  
#5 Posted : 03 May 2013 15:49:07(UTC)
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achrn

As Kate says, I don't think they have no relevance, but they don't have absolute relevance. The building regs don't apply retrospectively either - there is no general requirement taht a place of work satisfies teh current building regs. If you determine that your place of work and equipment do meet the requirements of current building regs and current BS codes, then that would probably give you some confidence that they are suitable, but it wouldn't guarantee it. Satisfying the regs and BSs won't be a get out of jail card because in general you need to provide a suitable workplace, not one that meets any particular codes. All BSs that I know of (even ones that I can't see how anyone could think it might) have a statement in bold at the end of the foreword- "Compliance with a British Standard does not of itself confer immunity from legal obligations."
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